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Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. . It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to come out. My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only 5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend down and being short mente I had to go under the water. Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in and get it. It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? Lori
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Lori, Congratulations, you have reached a higher level of Porgdom! from one who reached her level in her nightie at 5 a.m. in a lightening storm wading around in a half filled pond. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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Next I have to assimulate someone else <G>. Lori – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Congratulations, you have reached a higher level of Porgdom! >from one who reached her level in her nightie at 5 a.m. in a lightening storm >wading around in a half filled pond. >k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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That’s a great story!
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> slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing > over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
after "Turtles" wet T shirt contest you got a $$ break on the tree work? ;P — Ken Arnold, ICQ # 1028648 KenCo Fish & Supplies Pond and Aquarium fish, Shipping plants/fish etc. a specialty Imported & domestic Koi,Goldfish,Orandas, Tropicals,exotics, Piranhas etc.
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Lori, Do you have any pictures you can share with us? (You can send them privately, if you need to.) Ed in Chicago
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I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is the guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. Lori – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Lori, >Do you have any pictures you can share with us? >(You can send them privately, if you need to.) >Ed in Chicago
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Lori, this story is priceless!!! Thanks for the laugh!! > …. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
– Kellie
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You made my day. After losing 6 fish and a snail to a raccoon raid the other night, I needed a laugh. Thanks!! Cheryl Are we having fun yet? (Remove NoJunk to send E-Mail)
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the tree guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. You mean his quote was better the the ones Derek gives us? Your story was hilarious and has certainly stirred up the pond. By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. <G> — Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley (*&^)/ Usenet for the Web
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I guess we all have are fun with the ponds don’t we. I’m still trying to find my wedding ring which I lost in the pond in the late spring. Here is a photo you may appreciate. http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6 Nick Zender – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You made my day. After losing 6 fish and a snail to a raccoon raid the other >night, I needed a laugh. Thanks!! >Cheryl >Are we having fun yet? >(Remove NoJunk to send E-Mail)
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>I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is >the guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>.
Some people will do anything to get a lower price. :-) I’ll bet seeing me in a wet t-shirt wouldn’t induce a low price from a tree guy. A heart attack, maybe. Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted using MR/2 ICE Newsreader version 1.60 #564
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Wow! They should put that segment in a movie sometime. Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. > . It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on > my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for > the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom > of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this > problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? > Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday > and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to > come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only > 5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend > down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to > get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to > fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So > if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a > dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in > and get it. > It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it > had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to > investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie > toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water > and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky > I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily > until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment > and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper > several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out > everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. > Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I > slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing > over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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No wonder he gave you the best quote!!! Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is the > guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. > Lori >Lori, >Do you have any pictures you can share with us? >(You can send them privately, if you need to.) >Ed in Chicago
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Dear Nick, World’s most unusual waterlily << http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6 Thanks! I needed a chortle today! k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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Sounds typical for some one of your nature.and some in this group..its – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. >. It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on >my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for >the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom >of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this >problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? >Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday >and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to >come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only >5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend >down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to >get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to >fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So >if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a >dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in >and get it. >It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it >had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to >investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie >toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water >and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky >I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily >until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment >and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper >several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out >everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. >Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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Nick wrote (to Lori): >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather.
Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! Ed in Chicago
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>Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet?
Baptism with a witness? She is truly Porg, your mission is to assimilate the tree guy. ~ jan
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I am glad I have a sence of humor <G>. My husband wasn’t thrilled that I thrilled the tree man, but if he knocks off 100 dollars he will live with it. What I failed to mention was that I received Charlies bacteria yesterday and all I could think of was all the bacteria was going to be on me. I think I spent half the day in the shower. Thanks for all the nice comments. They all made me laugh. I built a waterfall today. I wasn’t going to do it but the pile of rocks kept getting taller and the pump hose looked so good flowing out of it. I couldn’t help myself. So now I have a waterfall at my beach. Lori… who really feels like part of the collective knowing K30 did the same thing in a nighty.
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ROTFLMAO! I needed this laugh. Lost my biggest koi today. Big Blue would have been 12 this August. Wish I could be there to help you out of the water next time you decide to take a dip. Just a little bit of southern hospitality <EG>. John
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> Nick wrote (to Lori): >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. > Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! > Ed in Chicago
Hey, Ed, You were asking for pictures! — Nick, DOM, Retired in the San Fernando Valley (*&^)/ Usenet for the Web
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Lori, You made my day! This was hysterical. Foxeye, Were you potty trained too early or maybe you just need to double up on the prozac. Kim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Foxeye writes: >Sounds typical for some one of your nature.and some in this group..its
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>> Nick wrote (to Lori): > >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can > >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. > Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! > Ed in Chicago >Hey, Ed, >You were asking for pictures!
Oh, right, forgot. Hey Lori, send me any good pictures you have, ok? Ed in Chicago
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>Here is a photo you may appreciate. >http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6
LOL! What heathy lily pads you have my dear. ;o) ~ jan
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A true ponder! Janie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. >. It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on >my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for >the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom >of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this >problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? >Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday >and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to >come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only >5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend >down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to >get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to >fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So >if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a >dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in >and get it. >It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it >had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to >investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie >toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water >and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky >I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily >until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment >and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper >several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out >everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. >Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. . It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to come out. My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only 5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend down and being short mente I had to go under the water. Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in and get it. It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? Lori
Response:
Lori, Congratulations, you have reached a higher level of Porgdom! from one who reached her level in her nightie at 5 a.m. in a lightening storm wading around in a half filled pond. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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Next I have to assimulate someone else <G>. Lori – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Congratulations, you have reached a higher level of Porgdom! >from one who reached her level in her nightie at 5 a.m. in a lightening storm >wading around in a half filled pond. >k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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That’s a great story!
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> slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing > over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
after "Turtles" wet T shirt contest you got a $$ break on the tree work? ;P — Ken Arnold, ICQ # 1028648 KenCo Fish & Supplies Pond and Aquarium fish, Shipping plants/fish etc. a specialty Imported & domestic Koi,Goldfish,Orandas, Tropicals,exotics, Piranhas etc.
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Lori, Do you have any pictures you can share with us? (You can send them privately, if you need to.) Ed in Chicago
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I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is the guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. Lori – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Lori, >Do you have any pictures you can share with us? >(You can send them privately, if you need to.) >Ed in Chicago
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Lori, this story is priceless!!! Thanks for the laugh!! > …. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
– Kellie
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You made my day. After losing 6 fish and a snail to a raccoon raid the other night, I needed a laugh. Thanks!! Cheryl Are we having fun yet? (Remove NoJunk to send E-Mail)
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the tree guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. You mean his quote was better the the ones Derek gives us? Your story was hilarious and has certainly stirred up the pond. By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. <G> — Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley (*&^)/ Usenet for the Web
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I guess we all have are fun with the ponds don’t we. I’m still trying to find my wedding ring which I lost in the pond in the late spring. Here is a photo you may appreciate. http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6 Nick Zender – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You made my day. After losing 6 fish and a snail to a raccoon raid the other >night, I needed a laugh. Thanks!! >Cheryl >Are we having fun yet? >(Remove NoJunk to send E-Mail)
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>I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is >the guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>.
Some people will do anything to get a lower price. :-) I’ll bet seeing me in a wet t-shirt wouldn’t induce a low price from a tree guy. A heart attack, maybe. Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted using MR/2 ICE Newsreader version 1.60 #564
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Wow! They should put that segment in a movie sometime. Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. > . It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on > my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for > the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom > of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this > problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? > Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday > and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to > come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only > 5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend > down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to > get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to > fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So > if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a > dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in > and get it. > It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it > had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to > investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie > toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water > and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky > I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily > until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment > and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper > several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out > everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. > Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I > slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing > over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t > embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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No wonder he gave you the best quote!!! Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I don’t but I am not sure about the tree guy. What makes it even worse is the > guy gave me the best quote and I’ll probably be using him <G>. > Lori >Lori, >Do you have any pictures you can share with us? >(You can send them privately, if you need to.) >Ed in Chicago
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Dear Nick, World’s most unusual waterlily << http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6 Thanks! I needed a chortle today! k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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Sounds typical for some one of your nature.and some in this group..its – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. >. It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on >my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for >the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom >of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this >problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? >Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday >and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to >come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only >5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend >down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to >get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to >fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So >if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a >dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in >and get it. >It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it >had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to >investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie >toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water >and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky >I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily >until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment >and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper >several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out >everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. >Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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Nick wrote (to Lori): >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather.
Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! Ed in Chicago
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>Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet?
Baptism with a witness? She is truly Porg, your mission is to assimilate the tree guy. ~ jan
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I am glad I have a sence of humor <G>. My husband wasn’t thrilled that I thrilled the tree man, but if he knocks off 100 dollars he will live with it. What I failed to mention was that I received Charlies bacteria yesterday and all I could think of was all the bacteria was going to be on me. I think I spent half the day in the shower. Thanks for all the nice comments. They all made me laugh. I built a waterfall today. I wasn’t going to do it but the pile of rocks kept getting taller and the pump hose looked so good flowing out of it. I couldn’t help myself. So now I have a waterfall at my beach. Lori… who really feels like part of the collective knowing K30 did the same thing in a nighty.
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ROTFLMAO! I needed this laugh. Lost my biggest koi today. Big Blue would have been 12 this August. Wish I could be there to help you out of the water next time you decide to take a dip. Just a little bit of southern hospitality <EG>. John
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> Nick wrote (to Lori): >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. > Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! > Ed in Chicago
Hey, Ed, You were asking for pictures! — Nick, DOM, Retired in the San Fernando Valley (*&^)/ Usenet for the Web
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Lori, You made my day! This was hysterical. Foxeye, Were you potty trained too early or maybe you just need to double up on the prozac. Kim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Foxeye writes: >Sounds typical for some one of your nature.and some in this group..its
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>> Nick wrote (to Lori): > >By the by, just what will you probably be using him for? You can > >privately e-mail me your answer if you’d rather. > Hey Lori, just remember, I was the first one to suggest private messages! > Ed in Chicago >Hey, Ed, >You were asking for pictures!
Oh, right, forgot. Hey Lori, send me any good pictures you have, ok? Ed in Chicago
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>Here is a photo you may appreciate. >http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pondsgal/msg0722254616700.html?6
LOL! What heathy lily pads you have my dear. ;o) ~ jan
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A true ponder! Janie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Only people with ponds would really appreciate this. >. It started like any other morning at around 7:00. I went outside to check on >my little charges only to find one of the 50 pound bags of sand I bought for >the enclosure had slipped off the top of the pile and slid right to the bottom >of the pond. The sprinkler made the whole pile fall over. Now I have this >problem. How does one get a 50 pound bag of sand out of the bottom of the pond? >Well, the only choice I had was to go in and get it. > The biggest problem with this is the fact that I dumped in 40 crabs yesterday >and I am certain they were not all eaten at once. But the bag of sand had to >come out. > My second problem was the fact that the pond is 3 feet deep and I am only >5′2. That means in order to get the bag out of the water I would have to bend >down and being short mente I had to go under the water. > Just so happens the night before I called for about a hundred estimates to >get a few trees removed and trimmed up. Plus the sprinkler guy was coming to >fix the in ground systemt and the crew that cleans the house was on the way. So >if I didn’t get into the pond fast there would be people watching me do this. > I got my kids off to camp and the baby settled down in her swing. I got on a >dirty pair of shorts, an old tee shirt and decided it was a good time to go in >and get it. >It hadn’t dawned on me that the sack the sand came in was made of paper and it >had begun to fall apart. My foot touched the water and every turtle came to >investigate my toes. Kicking Hunter away because she was looking at my pinkie >toe like Fred Flintstone eyes brontobergers, I preceeded to slip into the water >and walk over to the sand. Now came the moment I dreaded. I bent down and lucky >I was able to grab it without having to dip my head. I lifted the sac easily >until it gave out and started spewing sand all over me. I panicked for a moment >and dropped it. While lifting it again I put my fingers through the paper >several times untill I got a good grip. The sand was now spilling out >everywhere and if you have ever walked on a wet plastic liner it is bad enough. >Now with the sand it made it worse than ice. Of course you guessed it… I >slipped, fell under the water and when I emerged there was a tree guy standing >over the edge holding his hand out for me to grab it. Well, if I wasn’t >embarrassed enough … what happens to a white tee shirt when it gets wet? > Lori
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The question on the George Foreman grill made me wonder how many of you bought some really lame gadget, only to later ask yourself why on earth you bought something so stupid. My nomination for our household’s dumbest gadgets: 1. battery powered vegetable peeler (The wife bought two, because they were on sale. She gave one to her mother. They both ended up in the trash.) 2. The Epilady (You ladies know what this one is. The wife used to shriek in pain when using it, and finally gave up on it. It looked painful) 3.French fry cutter/apple corer (It was made of plastic, and didn’t have the strength to core an apple or cut a potato. We sold it at a yard sale. Only used once)
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How about the 110V version of the vegetable peeler? Kids got it for my wife this past X-mas and it was used once and is now a drawer anchor. Another good one is the lighter to lighter battery charger for auto’s. My MIL got one for me this X-mas and if it wasn’t for the flashlight included, I wouldn’t have even opened the package before throwing it in the garbage. One more for the g-can, the hand held electrolysis tweezers for removing hair. Got one for the wife on her birthday a year ago thinking I was being a good thoughtful husband, and the tweezers were so loose that you couldn’t even grab hair much less zap them. Ended up buying a good electric razor for her this X-mas to make up for it. FNO Toolman — FREE Online Help & Advice Covering A Wide Variety Of Subjects PLUS Loads Of Great Family Fun! Check Us Out… www.familynews.org Your Connection To North American Family Life – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The question on the George Foreman grill made me wonder how many of you >bought some really lame gadget, only to later ask yourself why on earth you >bought something so stupid. >My nomination for our household’s dumbest gadgets: >1. battery powered vegetable peeler (The wife bought two, because they were >on sale. She gave one to her mother. They both ended up in the trash.) >2. The Epilady (You ladies know what this one is. The wife used to shriek in >pain when using it, and finally gave up on it. It looked painful) >3.French fry cutter/apple corer (It was made of plastic, and didn’t have the >strength to core an apple or cut a potato. We sold it at a yard sale. Only >used once)
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Can opener that cut around the outside of the can top instead of inside the rim. Sure, the lid wasn’t sharp, but BOY! was the can itself ever sharp. Didn’t work very well, either. Had ordered it by mail and was finally successful is getting a refund (but not of the shipping cost). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The question on the George Foreman grill made me wonder how many of you >bought some really lame gadget, only to later ask yourself why on earth you >bought something so stupid. >My nomination for our household’s dumbest gadgets: >1. battery powered vegetable peeler (The wife bought two, because they were >on sale. She gave one to her mother. They both ended up in the trash.) >2. The Epilady (You ladies know what this one is. The wife used to shriek in >pain when using it, and finally gave up on it. It looked painful) >3.French fry cutter/apple corer (It was made of plastic, and didn’t have the >strength to core an apple or cut a potato. We sold it at a yard sale. Only >used once)
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…those cups that supposedly separate grease from broth! You know, they let you pour off the grease that comes to the top? I bought one for me & one for my daughter. I used mine once – it was too hard to clean & didn’t work as well as my usual method of dipping grease off the bubbling broth with a spoon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The question on the George Foreman grill made me wonder how many of you > bought some really lame gadget, only to later ask yourself why on earth you > bought something so stupid. > My nomination for our household’s dumbest gadgets: > 1. battery powered vegetable peeler (The wife bought two, because they were > on sale. She gave one to her mother. They both ended up in the trash.) > 2. The Epilady (You ladies know what this one is. The wife used to shriek in > pain when using it, and finally gave up on it. It looked painful) > 3.French fry cutter/apple corer (It was made of plastic, and didn’t have the > strength to core an apple or cut a potato. We sold it at a yard sale. Only > used once)
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A foldup snow shovel for the car. It broke the very first time I used it on a mere shovelful of wet snow. Ilene B
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My ex-girlfriend bought a "salad shooter." I got stuck with it when we split up.
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My SO’s "Citrus Express". First time he used it, we thought he was doing it wrong. Ended up taking me less time with a grapefruit knife. The citrus corer that comes with it (probably costs a dime wholesale to make) is the only part of it that works well. What bewilders me is that the blade in that thing is so sharp it did a nice job on the dishwashing sponge when we tried to clean it. It now has a place of honor in "Larry’s Gadgetman Graveyard" aka the basement closet….. -=>epm<=- In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same. – Albert Einstein
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Apart from art james ‘wedding ring’ answer(so ture)…a Wagner Power Painter is my choice….
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>Mosquito Hawk!
OK. There’s one I never heard of. I’m guessing it kills mosquitos, but just how does it do it?
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My wife’s aunt ( a churchgoing senior citizen) swears this is true. A week before Thanksgiving two men bought a new/unused female hygiene syringe at a garage sale. One said to the other that his wife was looking for one of these "turkey basters"
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> First time he used it, we thought he was doing it wrong. Ended up taking me > less time with a grapefruit knife.
This seems to be the case with all of the specialty cutting/chopping devices. If they aren’t actually slower than a sharp knife and cutting board they’re almost always harder to clean. <TROLL> A good runner-up in this category would be most single-purpose cookers other than a toaster or coffeemaker. <PUNCH ME> Like that George Foreman hamburger grill. </PUNCH ME> I would even include microwave ovens. Other than reheating take-out in the carton a regular stove does almost anything better, including most frozen goodies…. </TROLL> John Reece Not an Intel spokesman
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Electric meat slicer (home version of rotary cutters used in deli sandwich shops). Nothing wrong with the cutting job, but the thing took longer to clean up than it did to slice an entire ham or roast. If you just wanted to slice enough for a sandwich the cleaning time was the same. We donated it to our church yard sale a few years ago. — Mark Johnson LSI Logic Storage Systems, Inc. M/S 18 (formerly Symbios, Inc.) (316)636-8189 Wichita, KS 67226-1397
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I once bought an electric meat slicer to cut bacon slabs. But it wouldn’t cut the bacon cleanly. I put it in storage when I found it did a better job of stretching the bacon than cutting it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Electric meat slicer (home version of rotary cutters used in >deli sandwich shops). Nothing wrong with the cutting job, but >the thing took longer to clean up than it did to slice an >entire ham or roast. If you just wanted to slice enough for >a sandwich the cleaning time was the same. >We donated it to our church yard sale a few years ago. >– >Mark Johnson LSI Logic Storage Systems, Inc. >M/S 18 (formerly Symbios, Inc.) >(316)636-8189 Wichita, KS 67226-1397
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She used the pacifier around the house and to help her fall asleep. Honest. For all I know, she may still sleep with one now at age 17. Yes, we all think it was weird and an abomination, but it was what my sister had to allow to keep the peace with a very strong-willed child. She is the youngest of 3 children. The pacifier use may have something to do with the divorce when she was a toddler. She is the only one out of 50 children in our extended family to keep it that long. Usually they spit it out before kindergarten. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I am not trying to be rude, but I can’t believe what I just read!! A >pacifier in grade school??!!?? Come on now that is ridiculous. >Jeannie >~Mom of Emily 11/96 and Garrett 11/98~ >Is a soother the same thing as a pacifier or a binky? It looks like a >bottle >nipple and they suck on it incessantly? >Pick your battles. Is this really that important? >Let her have one and wash it every day and every time she drops it. They >give up daytime use of the pacifier, on their own, the first day of big >kids’ school, 5-6 years of age. >My niece kept hers after school and at night for several years into grade >school. Looks funny, but it kept her happy. >She is 17 years old now and surviving nicely in her senior year of high >school. She has a job and a boyfriend and is applying to college. No more >binky either, except for an occasional candy pacifier on a ring the >preteens >and teens love now. >See, they will not give it up. Oh well. >Upstate NY Mom >>Just to update on the soother situation. >snip
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Dear Margo, Modern thought is to allow a soother. Wash it once a week. Do let her have the soother. It is much cheaper than possible therapy down the road. Both my boys have their soothers available to them. The 20 year old I thought gave up his soother at 2-1/2 years old, pestered and pestered us to buy him another one from age 4 until we caved in and bought him one at age 9. He wanted a blue, satin edged crib blanket. He is 20 now and in college. His preferred soother at bedtime is a stuffed penguin or the large rabbit or the teddy bear. I think you would be surprised at how many stuffed animals there are in the Men’s and Women’s dorms at his college. They are all very high achieving young adults who will be making $60k/year or more in a few years on their first professional positions in business, engineering, government, etc. Upstate NY Mom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Just to update on the soother situation. >Daughter’s birthday was on the 17th. She told us that she wanted it for >daycare (nap) and would throw it out at Grandma’s house that night (where we >were going for cake). Once there she said that she would throw it out at >our house when we got home. You guessed it, once we got home she didn’t >want to throw it away. I put her to bed, and after much stalling I was able >to leave the room. She followed me out about 1 min. later stating that she >had tried to sleep without the soother but that she couldn’t. She would >throw it away the next morning. She was sleeping in our bed (like most >nights lately), so I gave her the choice of sleeping in our bed w/out the >soother, or she could go to her room w/ the soother. This created a HUGE >crying fit, but eventually she went to her room with the soother. I have >not allowed it in her mouth at all during the day since, and she has been >required to sleep in her own bed with it (not ours), but do not want to be >absolutely horrible about this. She does have her "Bunny" and has a blankie >that she sleeps with. I am not sure if I should be forceful about this and >just suffer through the initial reaction or let her continue as is. She >obviously is not ready to give this up. Tried talking and talking, she >sounds very willing and ready "I’m 4 now so I don’t need a soother anymore" >until it gets right down to it, and then she buckles. Seems that she >doesn’t think she can handle it . Don’t know why. She receives lots of >encouragement on everything. Always has. >I guess we will go along the same right now, and try to find another way. I >don’t want to punish her for something that she REALLY needs, however, I >don’t want to help her continue a bad habit, if thats all it is. >As for my son, I am not worried yet about his soother, but you can see why >I’m trying to plan ahead this time. >Margo >Mom of: Sarah(02/95) > Daniel (10/97)
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Margo, I believe this is becoming a big ordeal for you and Sarah. The more you both concentrate on Sarah giving it up, the more Sarah is going to want it. You need to decide either she IS giving it up or NOT (for now). If she is giving it up now, then be strong. Have Sarah throw it away (or give it away) and don’t look back. You must be firm or it’ll tear Sarah apart. If she is not giving it up right now, then tell Sarah she can keep it and don’t bug her about it. Going back and forth on the decision is going to do nothing but make Sarah hold onto it even tighter making it just that much more difficult for her to give it up. When you’ve decided that it really is time, there’s no need to make anyone throw it away. Just wait until it is accidentally lost and don’t buy another one. Let Sarah know this is what will happen before it happens. When it happens, it will be just a matter of fact that it’s gone rather than a drawn-out emotional situation. Comfort her in the same way as you would if she lost something you truly couldn’t replace. Help her through the situation by letting her sleep with you for awhile. But don’t give in! Once you’ve really made up your mind this is what’s best for Sarah (whenever you think it really is), then do it and stick with it. It really won’t take that long before Sarah forgets all about it. Regardless of whether you decide to let her keep it or give it up, make that decision and stick to it. Take Care! Vicki Surratt Proud Mom of Kathy (6 today!) and Jenny (9)! 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Just to update on the soother situation. > Daughter’s birthday was on the 17th. She told us that she wanted it for > daycare (nap) and would throw it out at Grandma’s house that night (where we > were going for cake). Once there she said that she would throw it out at > our house when we got home. You guessed it, once we got home she didn’t > want to throw it away. I put her to bed, and after much stalling I was able > to leave the room. She followed me out about 1 min. later stating that she > had tried to sleep without the soother but that she couldn’t. She would > throw it away the next morning. She was sleeping in our bed (like most > nights lately), so I gave her the choice of sleeping in our bed w/out the > soother, or she could go to her room w/ the soother. This created a HUGE > crying fit, but eventually she went to her room with the soother. I have > not allowed it in her mouth at all during the day since, and she has been > required to sleep in her own bed with it (not ours), but do not want to be > absolutely horrible about this. She does have her "Bunny" and has a blankie > that she sleeps with. I am not sure if I should be forceful about this and > just suffer through the initial reaction or let her continue as is. She > obviously is not ready to give this up. Tried talking and talking, she > sounds very willing and ready "I’m 4 now so I don’t need a soother anymore" > until it gets right down to it, and then she buckles. Seems that she > doesn’t think she can handle it . Don’t know why. She receives lots of > encouragement on everything. Always has. > I guess we will go along the same right now, and try to find another way. I > don’t want to punish her for something that she REALLY needs, however, I > don’t want to help her continue a bad habit, if thats all it is. > As for my son, I am not worried yet about his soother, but you can see why > I’m trying to plan ahead this time. > Margo > Mom of: Sarah(02/95) > Daniel (10/97)
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I am not trying to be rude, but I can’t believe what I just read!! A pacifier in grade school??!!?? Come on now that is ridiculous. Jeannie ~Mom of Emily 11/96 and Garrett 11/98~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Is a soother the same thing as a pacifier or a binky? It looks like a bottle >nipple and they suck on it incessantly? >Pick your battles. Is this really that important? >Let her have one and wash it every day and every time she drops it. They >give up daytime use of the pacifier, on their own, the first day of big >kids’ school, 5-6 years of age. >My niece kept hers after school and at night for several years into grade >school. Looks funny, but it kept her happy. >She is 17 years old now and surviving nicely in her senior year of high >school. She has a job and a boyfriend and is applying to college. No more >binky either, except for an occasional candy pacifier on a ring the preteens >and teens love now. >See, they will not give it up. Oh well. >Upstate NY Mom >Just to update on the soother situation. >snip
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Is a soother the same thing as a pacifier or a binky? It looks like a bottle nipple and they suck on it incessantly? Pick your battles. Is this really that important? Let her have one and wash it every day and every time she drops it. They give up daytime use of the pacifier, on their own, the first day of big kids’ school, 5-6 years of age. My niece kept hers after school and at night for several years into grade school. Looks funny, but it kept her happy. She is 17 years old now and surviving nicely in her senior year of high school. She has a job and a boyfriend and is applying to college. No more binky either, except for an occasional candy pacifier on a ring the preteens and teens love now. See, they will not give it up. Oh well. Upstate NY Mom >Just to update on the soother situation.
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I cannot take the credit for my children getting off the pacifier. One night our regular sitter was unavailable, but her brother volunteered to fill in. He could not find their pacifiers and so put them to bed without. He said they cried a little more than he thought they might, but not so much as to alarm him into calling us. They pretty much took the truth that he could not find them (this was at 10 months). The next night (we had only ever allowed pacifiers in their own beds), I didn’t tell them we had found them. They said "Pacies are lost," and went to sleep fairly well. We never spoke of them again! I have often thought that I owe that young man a debt of gratitude, for I would have most assuredly given in on the first night and had a much bigger scene played out later. Kim (SAHM to 4 1/2 yr FB)
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Just to update on the soother situation. Daughter’s birthday was on the 17th. She told us that she wanted it for daycare (nap) and would throw it out at Grandma’s house that night (where we were going for cake). Once there she said that she would throw it out at our house when we got home. You guessed it, once we got home she didn’t want to throw it away. I put her to bed, and after much stalling I was able to leave the room. She followed me out about 1 min. later stating that she had tried to sleep without the soother but that she couldn’t. She would throw it away the next morning. She was sleeping in our bed (like most nights lately), so I gave her the choice of sleeping in our bed w/out the soother, or she could go to her room w/ the soother. This created a HUGE crying fit, but eventually she went to her room with the soother. I have not allowed it in her mouth at all during the day since, and she has been required to sleep in her own bed with it (not ours), but do not want to be absolutely horrible about this. She does have her "Bunny" and has a blankie that she sleeps with. I am not sure if I should be forceful about this and just suffer through the initial reaction or let her continue as is. She obviously is not ready to give this up. Tried talking and talking, she sounds very willing and ready "I’m 4 now so I don’t need a soother anymore" until it gets right down to it, and then she buckles. Seems that she doesn’t think she can handle it . Don’t know why. She receives lots of encouragement on everything. Always has. I guess we will go along the same right now, and try to find another way. I don’t want to punish her for something that she REALLY needs, however, I don’t want to help her continue a bad habit, if thats all it is. As for my son, I am not worried yet about his soother, but you can see why I’m trying to plan ahead this time. Margo Mom of: Sarah(02/95) Daniel (10/97)
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>>My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up in the night
crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen if I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her birthday (not even going to tell you how old << – - – If you don’t like the sucking, start worrying about it when the kid is maybe 3 1/2. Does he have something else – a Puffalump or blanket – that he is attached to and has absolute control over; no sharing required. If not, it is no surprise that he likes his binkies. Don’t take them away until advised to do so by several dental experts who are knowledgeable of more than "old wives’ tales." Having the ability to soothe one’s self with something totally under your own control is important for toddler self-esteem. You could give one of his animals a name and start acting like it would be the end of the world to leave home without it: "Aren’t you forgeting Ducky-Doo?" He’ll get attached. I’d recommend getting two of whatever item you plan to push on him, so you can keep one in the wash – never let him see both at the same time. – Ron Low Levity is the dearth of gravity. Brevity is the height of clarity. non-commercial e-mail always welcome Allow 2 days for replies
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"Margo", This is an entirely reasonable question.My sister used some books (story on giving up a pacifier), roleplay, promise of something special after the big day, and alternative soothing activities. It worked. I thought I’d also share a very nice site where you can get good answers to your child development questions. Take a look at <http://www.welovekids.com/askaparentdoc.htm> I’ve used it and found it very helpful. Good luck. SJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s > soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up > in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back > in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen if > I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of > wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her > birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the > abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for > some ideas of what might work. > Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. > Margo > P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am > trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about > soothers.
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Thanks everybody again for all the advice. I’ll let you know how it goes. Her birthday is Wednesday (17th). Margo
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Do you feel you need to take away the "soother"? I took my daughter’s pacifier away when she was 12 months old, and I regretted it. She only used it at naptime and bedtime, but I felt like she was too old to have it. Then after I took it away (and she cried herself to sleep) I wondered why I felt I had to do that. Kristen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I kind of weaned my daughter from it. She used to use it through the day, > then just at certain times (car rides and sleep time). Then one day my son > dropped it at the play group. We’ve never looked back. The car ride home > was hard, but she was pretty much okay after that. (It was just after her > 1st birthday). > Laura >>I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s >>soothers.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I can’t remember how old Kathy was when she gave up her pacifier, but >apparently she was older than *some* people thought she should have been (maybe >she was 2-3?). I remember one woman, whom I had never met before, started >talking to us at a store. Then during the pleasant conversation, she actually >tried to take Kathy’s pacifier out of her mouth while saying something about >her being too old (and she was saying it to Kathy and not even me!). >I politely told her to give me her wedding rings. When she looked at me with a >puzzled expression, I asked her why she wasn’t so thrilled about giving me >something special of hers since she obviously had no problems taking away >something very special to my child! It stunned her.
<gently snipped> We live in a small town with a very large older population. I am always running into well meaning ladies in the store. God love em all. I know they don’t mean any slight, but I am capable of raising my own children. And why I am supposed to accept advice from someone I don’t know is beyond me! As for giving up the passy, I am going through that now with my son. He will be three next month. He only gets it at bedtime now. And we are down to the last two. He asked if we could buy some more since these are getting a little worn. I told him in my best sad voice that we would have to make do with these till they were worn out since Wal-Mart doesn’t sell them any more. He said Kay! and went about his business. (lol now we just have to stay away from the baby aisle at W-M!) I don’t mind that he has it still at bedtime. He asks for it less and less these days, so I think he is about ready to give it up anyhoo. He still has his "fuzzy" blankie and that is fine with me. The rule is it doesn’t come out of his room. If he needs his fuzzy, he goes in there. Same with the passy. my best, Sharon
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Birthdays are a good occasion to give up a pacifier. My sister-in-law had her son give up his at his 4th or 5th birthday. She prepared for the occasion by spending a lot of time telling Chris how big and grown up he was getting, and how as children got older they didn’t use some of the things smaller children use. Chris willingly gave it up on his birthday, but later in the day he came up to his mom saying, "I don’t know if I can handle this!" He did fine, and I’m sure you and your daughter will too.
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I would’ve loved to seen the look on that lady’s face!!! :) Good for you! Lisa — Visit my website… http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/9283/
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Excellent! I sucked my thumb till I was ten – although my parents continue to tell everyone that I did it till I was 18!!! Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Until my son was 28 mo of age, mommy’s breasts were his pacifier. I thought >when the nursing relationship ended, his need for a soother would end. >Well, it did not. >He went several years without a soother and kept asking for one. I finally >broke down and bought him the blue, satin-edged crib blanket he wanted when >he was 9. >He gave up this blue "blankie" at age 13 when we bought him an oversized, >stuffed bear for a Christmas present. He still keeps the blue blankie in a >drawer. >Now, my just-turned, 20 year old son is a sophomore in college and still >sleeps with the over-sized stuffed bear or this little, stuffed penguin a >girl gave him. I suspect that someday, his wife will replace the stuffed >animals as a soother. >My younger son gave up his sucking his index finger the first day of >kindergarten. He promptly took up with a yellow, satin-edged receiving >blanket that he had used as an occasional lovie before. He is 17 years old >now, plays rock and roll guitar and hangs out in his room with that darn >blankie draped over an amplifier. >At least he does not suck his thumb during the day like my 17 year old niece >still does. My sister tried to break her of that, but never found a >substitute soother she would accept. She was always a stubborn child. >Some kids never grow out of a soother/lovie/blankie. Oh well. ;o) >Upstate NY Mom >I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s >soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up >in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back >in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen >if >I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of >wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her >birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the >abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for >some ideas of what might work. >Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. >Margo >P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am >trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about >soothers.
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>I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s >soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up >in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back >in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep.
We used to put about four pacifiers in the crib with Julie. THat way, she could always find one durring the night. She quickly learned to feel around untill she found one. As for taking it away. We went cold turkey. But then we had to. Julie tripped and landed on her face. When we looked at her we saw that she was bleeding from around her gum line. We were concerned that her teeth had been loosend and were worried that a pacifyer would make the situation worst. So we just took them all away and hid them. Sure, there was some whining but we just said that the pacifyers were all gone. >P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am >trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about >soothers.
Some people will see trolls anywhere. I ignore them when I see them. — Just my $0.02 worth. Hope this helps, Gordon PS: To reply: replace ‘X.bleeb’ with ‘greeder’.
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Ooops. Another 0.5 cent from me. I’ve heard of people "giving them to Santa for the other babies in the world". Also, for the older child, maybe when she gets to sleep-over age, she’ll not want the embarrassment of taking a soother? –Janet Triplets (10/21/96) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >If you want to try to take it away this is what I did with my daughter… >She was mainly using it at night. This past fall (she was 2 1/2), my >sister in law had a baby. My mother in law asked Kelsey one day if she >could have her passie (soothie, lovie, etc) to give to Michelle (the new >baby). Well, Kelsey gave it to her. She pitched a fit that night so I gave >her one back. The next time she saw my mother in law she gave her her >passie again. After that if she asked for it I told her that she had given >it to Michelle and that I didn’t have it. She would say ok and go on about >her business. The worst part was probably the first night or two that she >didn’t have it. She cried for a little while before finally going to sleep. >She’s been without a passy now for about 6 mos. >Try finding someone with a new baby and try that technique. Or you could >just simply take it away and not give it back. Try comforting him some >other way…a bottle or sippy cup with some water. Or try switching to >something else that might give him comfort. A favorite blanket, stuffed >toy, etc. >But, honestly, and I know you didn’t want to hear it; but at 16 mos I >wouldn’t be to worried about it. I’d wait at least another year or so. >He’s still young and needs that comfort. If Kelsey had really pitched a fit >about me taking her passy away I would’ve let her keep it. But, she dealt >with it and moved on. It was more of a habit than a comfort for her. I >know you didn’t want to say how old your daughter was; but unless she like >4+ I wouldn’t be worried about her either. I think there does come a time >when it seems maybe a bit babyish for them to still be using a passy. But, >I wouldn’t have any problems with a three year old using one. Some kids >just need the comfort it gives them. >Lisa >Mom to Kelsey (2) >– >Visit my website… >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/9283/
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I think D.A. wrote you a beautiful reply. I had a blankie (now, alas, long gone), a thumb (still here thank goodness, although I sucked it til I was 27) and a teddy — acquired when I was about nine: slept with me til I got married; now has pride of place by my bed. Some kids like them. Some kids need them. I personally collected them (or that’s what it sounds like … :-) ). Don’t sweat it and don’t take it away from *either* of your kids. –Janet Triplets (10/21/96) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Until my son was 28 mo of age, mommy’s breasts were his pacifier. I thought >when the nursing relationship ended, his need for a soother would end. >Well, it did not. >He went several years without a soother and kept asking for one. I finally >broke down and bought him the blue, satin-edged crib blanket he wanted when >he was 9. >He gave up this blue "blankie" at age 13 when we bought him an oversized, >stuffed bear for a Christmas present. He still keeps the blue blankie in a >drawer. >Now, my just-turned, 20 year old son is a sophomore in college and still >sleeps with the over-sized stuffed bear or this little, stuffed penguin a >girl gave him. I suspect that someday, his wife will replace the stuffed >animals as a soother. >My younger son gave up his sucking his index finger the first day of >kindergarten. He promptly took up with a yellow, satin-edged receiving >blanket that he had used as an occasional lovie before. He is 17 years old >now, plays rock and roll guitar and hangs out in his room with that darn >blankie draped over an amplifier. >At least he does not suck his thumb during the day like my 17 year old niece >still does. My sister tried to break her of that, but never found a >substitute soother she would accept. She was always a stubborn child. >Some kids never grow out of a soother/lovie/blankie. Oh well. ;o) >Upstate NY Mom >I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s >soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up >in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back >in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen >if >I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of >wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her >birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the >abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for >some ideas of what might work. >Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. >Margo >P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am >trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about >soothers.
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I had a friend suggest that we let our daughter give it to a baby as a "gift." It worked wonderfully for us! We talked for awhile about how wonderful it was for a baby to have a pacifier. After a week or so of implanting the idea that pacifiers were "baby things," we then started talking about how much she was growing up. We tried to avoid discussing both things at the same time for fear she’d become overly possessive about keeping her pacifier. Then, we told her that as babies grow up to become big kids, they no longer want their pacifiers, but since pacifiers are special, they didn’t want to just throw them away. So all the big kids started giving their pacifiers to special babies who didn’t have pacifiers. Then, as she would lose a pacifier, we didn’t replace it. Eventually she was down to only two of them. We started getting all excited about which baby she’d be giving her pacifier to! And then she lost one more and was down to one last one. We didn’t want to lose that one before we could give it to a special baby! So when we went to a friend’s house (who just happened to have a baby who didn’t appear to have a pacifier of it’s own 
Kathy was thrilled to give it to her! She talked for a several days about how happy she had made that baby by giving it her pacifier. And we celebrated with Kathy as she became a new big girl! The whole thing took at least 2-3 months. If you do this, don’t give the pacifier to a baby that your daughter will see very often – or she’ll expect to see that baby actually using the pacifier she gave her. Take Care! Vicki Surratt Proud Mom of Kathy (almost 6) and Jenny (9)! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s > soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up > in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back > in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen if > I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of > wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her > birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the > abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for > some ideas of what might work. > Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. > Margo > P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am > trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about > soothers.
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Thank you all very much for the ideas and especially for the sympathy. It makes me feel allot better. So far, from all directions, and experiences it seems that we’ve just received negative input about soother’s in general, especially the age thing. It seems most people have their kids completely weaned from everything so early! Normally I don’t pay attention to anything like that as these are "my" children and I’ll raise them the way that I think is best for them, not how others think I should, but my daughter will be 4 in a week. I even think she should be able to give it up (even just for the reason of the eternal search for the stupid thing at bedtime!). We had decided to have the "soother fairy" come and take it by replacing it with a toy, but have just not had the $$ for the toy of her choice (train-set !!). Now that it is her birthday we thought we would just try to tell her that she is too old. If she put’s up a huge fuss, we won’t deprive her (also, I’d rather she have that then start on her thumb). Not too concerned yet with my little one, but I just don’t really want it to get to this stage again, and I thought I might find out what others have done. Thanks again Margo
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I can’t remember how old Kathy was when she gave up her pacifier, but apparently she was older than *some* people thought she should have been (maybe she was 2-3?). I remember one woman, whom I had never met before, started talking to us at a store. Then during the pleasant conversation, she actually tried to take Kathy’s pacifier out of her mouth while saying something about her being too old (and she was saying it to Kathy and not even me!). I politely told her to give me her wedding rings. When she looked at me with a puzzled expression, I asked her why she wasn’t so thrilled about giving me something special of hers since she obviously had no problems taking away something very special to my child! It stunned her. She sheepishly apologized and tried to excuse her actions by saying she meant well. I accepted the apology and boldly told her I was perfectly capable of determining how and when my daughter would give up her pacifier. Then we parted. I never could understand why people got it into their heads that they somehow knew what was best for someone else’s child without even attempting to discuss it with the parents. Take Care! Vicki Surratt Proud Mom of Kathy (almost 6) and Jenny (9)! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thank you all very much for the ideas and especially for the sympathy. It > makes me feel allot better. So far, from all directions, and experiences > it seems that we’ve just received negative input about soother’s in general, > especially the age thing. It seems most people have their kids completely > weaned from everything so early! Normally I don’t pay attention to anything > like that as these are "my" children and I’ll raise them the way that I > think is best for them, not how others think I should, but my daughter will > be 4 in a week. I even think she should be able to give it up (even just for > the reason of the eternal search for the stupid thing at bedtime!). We had > decided to have the "soother fairy" come and take it by replacing it with a > toy, but have just not had the $$ for the toy of her choice (train-set !!). > Now that it is her birthday we thought we would just try to tell her that > she is too old. If she put’s up a huge fuss, we won’t deprive her (also, > I’d rather she have that then start on her thumb). Not too concerned yet > with my little one, but I just don’t really want it to get to this stage > again, and I thought I might find out what others have done. Thanks again > Margo
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Until my son was 28 mo of age, mommy’s breasts were his pacifier. I thought when the nursing relationship ended, his need for a soother would end. Well, it did not. He went several years without a soother and kept asking for one. I finally broke down and bought him the blue, satin-edged crib blanket he wanted when he was 9. He gave up this blue "blankie" at age 13 when we bought him an oversized, stuffed bear for a Christmas present. He still keeps the blue blankie in a drawer. Now, my just-turned, 20 year old son is a sophomore in college and still sleeps with the over-sized stuffed bear or this little, stuffed penguin a girl gave him. I suspect that someday, his wife will replace the stuffed animals as a soother. My younger son gave up his sucking his index finger the first day of kindergarten. He promptly took up with a yellow, satin-edged receiving blanket that he had used as an occasional lovie before. He is 17 years old now, plays rock and roll guitar and hangs out in his room with that darn blankie draped over an amplifier. At least he does not suck his thumb during the day like my 17 year old niece still does. My sister tried to break her of that, but never found a substitute soother she would accept. She was always a stubborn child. Some kids never grow out of a soother/lovie/blankie. Oh well. ;o) Upstate NY Mom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s >soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up >in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back >in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen if >I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of >wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her >birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the >abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for >some ideas of what might work. >Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. >Margo >P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am >trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about >soothers.
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If you want to try to take it away this is what I did with my daughter… She was mainly using it at night. This past fall (she was 2 1/2), my sister in law had a baby. My mother in law asked Kelsey one day if she could have her passie (soothie, lovie, etc) to give to Michelle (the new baby). Well, Kelsey gave it to her. She pitched a fit that night so I gave her one back. The next time she saw my mother in law she gave her her passie again. After that if she asked for it I told her that she had given it to Michelle and that I didn’t have it. She would say ok and go on about her business. The worst part was probably the first night or two that she didn’t have it. She cried for a little while before finally going to sleep. She’s been without a passy now for about 6 mos. Try finding someone with a new baby and try that technique. Or you could just simply take it away and not give it back. Try comforting him some other way…a bottle or sippy cup with some water. Or try switching to something else that might give him comfort. A favorite blanket, stuffed toy, etc. But, honestly, and I know you didn’t want to hear it; but at 16 mos I wouldn’t be to worried about it. I’d wait at least another year or so. He’s still young and needs that comfort. If Kelsey had really pitched a fit about me taking her passy away I would’ve let her keep it. But, she dealt with it and moved on. It was more of a habit than a comfort for her. I know you didn’t want to say how old your daughter was; but unless she like 4+ I wouldn’t be worried about her either. I think there does come a time when it seems maybe a bit babyish for them to still be using a passy. But, I wouldn’t have any problems with a three year old using one. Some kids just need the comfort it gives them. Lisa Mom to Kelsey (2) — Visit my website… http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/9283/
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I would like some ideas of how others have taken away their children’s soothers. My little boy 16 months sleeps with his, and sometimes wakes up in the night crying. We just go in and find the soother and place it back in his mouth, and he turns over and goes back to sleep. What will happen if I try to take this away. Please don’t suggest that he will grow out of wanting it, as my daughter is forcibly having hers taken away on her birthday (not even going to tell you how old – don’t feel like taking the abuse). I don’t want the same thing to occur with him, so I am looking for some ideas of what might work. Again, all I would like is positive feed back and ideas. Margo P.S. I hope this doesn’t appear as a troll, this is precisely what I am trying to avoid. I just know that people have very definite feelings about soothers.
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My finace & I are getting married July 5th. We are having a traditional, formal night wedding, and the song we consider to be "our song" is very inappropriate (don’t ask). Anyway, we are looking for ideas for songs for us to dance our 1st dance to. We are open to most types of music, but would rather something classic (as opposed to a newer, pop song) and preferably not country. Please e-mail me a response if possible. Thanks, Stephen Manale
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How about "Love Changes Everything" by Andrew Lloyd Webber from _Aspects of Love_. It is slow and very pretty–and also not a widely known know song that screams "ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER!!" I had a friend who had Phantom as their musical theme and by the end of the wedding I was ready for the chandelier to fall on someone (Not that I don’t love phantom…). Hope that helps. If you want the words I can e-mail them to you. Love Through Christ, Genni "Dancers are the athletes of God." -Albert Einstein
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Hi Genni, I wouldn’t mind getting the words or at least some of them. Thanks in advance.
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advance. Hi Genni, You should really have fun with this one. It one of my favorites and additionally one of the best West Coast Swing song there is!!!! Do you or your fianc=E9 know how to do the West Coast Swing? Maybe I can help! Kind Regards Jeff Allen For a Quickstart To Social Dancing & The Complete Guide To Slow Dancing please visit http://home.earthlink.net/~dancebook/
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Our first dance was "When You Say Nothing at All" from the Notting Hill soundtrack. Most of our significant songs (ceremony music too) came from movie soundtracks. Very secular, but it worked for us. — Melissa aka Muhlyssa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >" > > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > > dance, what would your choice be? >We danced to "I only have eyes for you" by Art Garfunkel
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> We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
Yeah, we thought of that, but rejected it when we realized how looooong it was. You’d be amazed how much you wish it was shorter when you’re standing up there! -Leslie
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> Our first dance was "When You Say Nothing at All" from the Notting Hill > soundtrack. Most of our significant songs (ceremony music too) came from > movie soundtracks. Very secular, but it worked for us.
Hilarious! We used this song, too, but we used the one recorded by Alison Krauss (check it out at cdnow.com). I thought we and our other Krauss-nut friends would be the only ones…. -Leslie
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Baby Doll likes going into the bars on a friday or saturday night. I put on a super short skit, a halter top, a little makeup, and I’m ready for some male companionship. I’ll drop a few quarters into the juke box and is grinding her hips in the married guys’ laps. If their old lady’s don’t like it – well, they’re free to leave. Baby Doll – everybody’s sweetheart
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remember folks, if you pick a long song, you don’t have to dance to the whole thing, You can have the DJ pot it down, or have the band fade it out. — Melissa aka Muhlyssa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel >Yeah, we thought of that, but rejected it when we realized how looooong it >was. You’d be amazed how much you wish it was shorter when you’re standing >up there! >-Leslie
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We’re going to use "At Last" by Etta James. It’s short, sweet, and so apropos for our 5-year relationship (Our anniversary is tomorrow! WOOHOO!) — Joy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> to reply via e-mail, remove NO SPAM from the e-mail address
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"I Will" by the Beatles is only 1:44 min. long — I can handle that. ===Rog’=== Of all the gin joints in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine. — Casablanca (1942)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> remember folks, if you pick a long song, you don’t have to dance to the > whole thing, You can have the DJ pot it down, or have the band fade it out. > — > Melissa aka Muhlyssa >> We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel >Yeah, we thought of that, but rejected it when we realized how looooong it >was. You’d be amazed how much you wish it was shorter when you’re standing >up there! >-Leslie
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For a fairly extensive list on what brides have chosen for their First Dance songs, vist www.FirstDance.com and click on "The Lists."
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Our song is I knew I loved You, by Savage Garden, so we plan on using it for our first dance. Part of the lyrics are inscribed on our wedding rings, as well. I didn’t know they used it on that millionaire show. I don’t know anyone who actually watched it. so I’m not too much worried about it. Tara . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be?
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" > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be?
We danced to "I only have eyes for you" by Art Garfunkel
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> I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be?
My 1st choice was "Somebody" by Depeche Mode. But my husband disagreed & suggested "One More Time" by the Cure, which I was ok with too. Then he went & wrote a new song himself, a very romantic power-pop ballad called "Forever Angel" (the final of a trilogy of angel songs he’s written about me & our relationship). And at some point I’ll actually get an MP3 of that song on our website… –T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . take the gothic martha stewart survey at http://www.toreadors.com/martha/
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We’re going to do a rumba to ‘Smooth’ by Santana and Rob Thomas Rachel
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This comes on from the Macy Gray one > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be? > Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds > We aren’t dancing though. > Cheers > Di > — > Dianne van Dulken > You have the right to remain silent. > Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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Great idea! I love the extended version on his POV video. My fiance and I initially started talking over our mutual love for Peter Gabriel! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
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just to let you know and i don’t want to be a bummer. We were thinking of that same song until my brother came home from a wedding and said "Great wedding beautiful service but they danced to the ‘Who wants to marry a Millionare’ song, how cheesy". You see the Savage Garden song was used on the show for Rick Rockwell and Darva ?? to dacne their first dance too. Just something to think about Tara — Tara & Barry April 21, 2001 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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My fiance and I are getting married September 1. As of right now, I think I want "I Knew I Loved You…" by Savage Garden to be our first dance song. If you haven’t heard it, it starts out something like this – "I knew I loved you before I met you, I think I dreamed you into life, i knew I loved you before I met you, I have been waiting all my life…" I think it’s pretty romantic and pretty much sums up how I feel about my man. I also want "In Your Eyes" on our play list though too. Dance on! Amy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This comes on from the Macy Gray one > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be? > Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds > We aren’t dancing though. > Cheers > Di > — > Dianne van Dulken > You have the right to remain silent. > Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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We’re dancing to "Can’t Help Falling in Love With You" using the timing done by Elvis (as opposed to the reggae version). It’s short and has a strong beat and I like the words. — Melissa [The big day is March 18, 2001] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This comes on from the Macy Gray one > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be? > Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds > We aren’t dancing though. > Cheers > Di > — > Dianne van Dulken > You have the right to remain silent. > Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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We used "Life is a Red Wagon" by Jane Siberry. We also inscribed a line from that song on our wedding rings. It was beautiful… Cheryl M. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This comes on from the Macy Gray one > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be? > Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds > We aren’t dancing though. > Cheers > Di > — > Dianne van Dulken > You have the right to remain silent. > Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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my cousin used "Kiss Me" by Sixpence None The Richer which was really cute – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > This comes on from the Macy Gray one > I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first > dance, what would your choice be? > Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds > We aren’t dancing though. > Cheers > Di > — > Dianne van Dulken > You have the right to remain silent. > Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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I LOVE the Dave Matthews song with Carlos Santana called "Love of my life" it is kinda tango-y salsa-y. Fun! If you are great dancers, you could really show off with this! Jenn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Great song. I’ll add it to may play list. Currenly 80. > — > ===Rog’=== > Of all the gin joints in all the towns, > in all the world, she walks into mine. > — Casablanca (1942) > We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
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This comes on from the Macy Gray one I thought it would be an interesting thread. If you were having a first dance, what would your choice be? Mine would be "The Ship Song" by Nick Cave and the bad seeds We aren’t dancing though. Cheers Di — Dianne van Dulken You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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We have chosen "In You Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
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Great song. I’ll add it to may play list. Currenly 80. — ===Rog’=== Of all the gin joints in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine. — Casablanca (1942)
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> Great song. I’ll add it to may play list. Currenly 80.
A little less known, but still a beautiful song. My FI and I have chosen "I Believe In You And Me," by the Four Tops. I think that Whitney Houston may have done a cover version, but I really like the original Four Tops version. Andy
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> So, my question… Do I dance the first dance with him, or do I dance >it with my fiance? >Thanks in advance, >Lyn (and Cris) (5/97)
The first dance is always the bride and groom, then after a little while, the rest of the bridal party is introduced as they take to the dance floor. After a little while, comes the "Mother & Groom" and the "Father & Bride" dances.
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: Hi, : We’ve been on this newsgroup for a while, and I have a question to ask. : If I remember correctly, the bride usually dances with her father on : the first dance. However, I have unusual circumstances. I always thought the first dance was the bride and groom, then later ones were bride/dad, groom/mom, etc. If I’m mistaken, I would think dancing with your friend (instead of your father) should be acceptable.
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> : Hi, > : We’ve been on this newsgroup for a while, and I have a question to ask. > : If I remember correctly, the bride usually dances with her father on > : the first dance. However, I have unusual circumstances. > I always thought the first dance was the bride and groom, then later > ones were bride/dad, groom/mom, etc. > If I’m mistaken, I would think dancing with your friend (instead of > your father) should be acceptable.
No, you’re probably right. I remembered that one of the dances was bride/dad, but I wasn’t sure what order they went in. Lyn (and Cris) (5/97)
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Hi, We’ve been on this newsgroup for a while, and I have a question to ask. If I remember correctly, the bride usually dances with her father on the first dance. However, I have unusual circumstances. My father is not going to be at our wedding because I haven’t spoken to him in several years. Because of this, combined with the fact that my fiance’s father is dead, I chose to let a close male friend of mine give me away at the wedding. I felt this would be appropriate because he’s flying from Australia to Arizona to attend my wedding. So, my question… Do I dance the first dance with him, or do I dance it with my fiance? Thanks in advance, Lyn (and Cris) (5/97)
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Hi All, My fiance and I are eloping in a few weeks. I am trying to figure out what i should get him for a wedding gift. He is hard to shop for on a normal day, so I am really at a loss for such a special gift. Please Help!!!!!! Kimberley( marrying Vincent 12-5-98)
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>what i >should get him for a wedding gift.
I know this might sound a little mushy-but how about writing him a letter detailing some of your experiences together while dating and how they have helped in shaping you and/or defining your relationship. Just a thought. Myrna 07/03/1999
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> >what i >should get him for a wedding gift.
My fiance is impossible to shop for too…he has a thousand hobbies, but he has so much of everything that you never know what he already *has*, and he’s pretty particular about the things he collects, so you never know what he *wants*! In any case, I’m thinking about getting him a traditional gift, only a little pricier than what I would get him for xmas or a bday…I’m stuck on the idea of a really nice watch right now. He has a perfectly fine everyday one, but I’d like to get him a "special occasion" gift, you know? I’m open to any other suggestions, for everyone else continuing this thread! Thanks. -crystal
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Hi All, My fiance is easy to shop for on regular occasions, but I wanted to do something extra-special for our wedding present. He had been nagging me to make him a blanket/quilt for a long time, so that is what I am making him. It will be a king size quilt in a pattern popular in the 30’s that is known as the Wedding Ring (not the typical pattern that you see–too many curves and too difficult!). The top is almost done…I am excited to give it to him. –kelley : Hi All, : My fiance and I are eloping in a few weeks. I am trying to figure out what i : should get him for a wedding gift. He is hard to shop for on a normal day, so : I am really at a loss for such a special gift. : Kimberley( marrying Vincent 12-5-98)
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>[snip] It is like she is calling me and telling me to come back and get her…lol. My husband says that I spoiled her. Well, I guess I have bored you enough. I’ll keep you posted and thanks again for the advice. >[snip] Thats exactly what she is doing. To the bird you are "the flock" and it does not want to be left behind. They make a great pet and do want to be with you all the time. If the bird is whisting a lot and not just calling there is a good chance your she is a he. The Fem. tend to be pretty quiet except for a call were the Males well whistle a lot and sing. Great birds either way a lot of fun. "Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed" "You live and you learn or you don’t live long" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Lazarus Long
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Hello, I posted a few weeks ago about my new white-faced cockatiel, Sweetie. I want to thank the people that responded and your advice helped a lot. I remember saying how I wanted that bond with her. Well, I can proudly say that we are getting closer everyday. I guess b/c she depends totally on us being that she can’t fly right now. I’m learning more about her everyday. I don’t have her favorite foods down yet, but we are trying. She loves playing in people’s hair and she loves biting on my wedding ring. I used to be able to leave her cage open during the day and she would just climb on top. Now she likes to get down on the floor. Imagine my shock when I came in and didn’t see her on her cage that first day. She had walked into the bathroom in our bedroom. It was funny. She is always talking (whistling) at me and responding to different things I say. Oh-and don’t let me leave the room and she is on the floor or in need of some attention-she really gets loud then…LOL! It is like she is calling me and telling me to come back and get her…lol. My husband says that I spoiled her. Well, I guess I have bored you enough. I’ll keep you posted and thanks again for the advice.
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Because there has been so much favorable information posted lately about Service Merchandise’s Bridal Registry, I want to warn everyone that they are going out of business, and soon! There was an article in one Denver newspaper’s business section a few weeks ago, saying they would be closed by Christmas. Both Denver papers are now carrying ads for "going out of business sales" with "merchandise from all over the country being sent to us for liquidation". I am pretty sure this is company-wide, not local. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! gloria p
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You’re KIDDING! I just put Darin’s wedding ring on layaway there – and they did not even hint that I would need to pay it off sooner than March! Oh my god! I better go check on it tomorrow, and see what I can find out. Are you sure its nationwide and not simply local??? Val
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>You’re KIDDING! I just put Darin’s wedding ring on layaway there – and they >did not even hint that I would need to pay it off sooner than March! Oh my >god! I better go check on it tomorrow, and see what I can find out. Are you >sure its nationwide and not simply local??? >Val
Val, This may give a clue into things: July, 14, 1998, Service Merchandise reported 2nd Quarter losses. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980714/service_me_1.html "The Company’s net loss for the second quarter of 1998 was $(6.3) million, or $(0.06) per share versus $(17.5) million, or $(0.18) per share for the second quarter of 1997" Then, in August of 1998, Service Merchandise announced a move away from their catalog way of selling. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980806/service_me_1.html "In the newly-formatted stores customers will find quantities of most items displayed on the sales floor, where before they would have encountered only a display sample. Previously, customers either wrote the item number down, or took a product ticket to the register with them. After the order was processed, the customer waited in a second line for the item to be brought out from a backroom warehouse. In the new Service Merchandise, customers will take most selections directly to registers, avoiding the second wait in line. " It appears through these financial reports, that Service merchandise has been closing some stores. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980714/service_me_1.html "In the context of this on-going corporate restructuring and repositioning plan, this press release will discuss the second quarter results from operations excluding closing facilities and remerchandising activities, the second quarter impact of closing facilities" Heather
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i designed the service merchandise 1997 annual report, so i got to see all the poop … they are not doing so well, (my bro-in-law was laid off this year when the sm closed that he managed!) but i do know that they are going in a new direction, focussing almost exclusively on fine jewelry and home products, while dropping some of their more un-popular lines like computers. ann
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The Service Merchandise in our town (in Maryland) is NOT closing. In fact, they are at the finishing end of totally remodeling their store, which increased their jewelry department by about 150% and increased the display size of their store by about 50% — making their warehouse section smaller. Also, our store has a huge "now hiring" banner displayed on the store front. Perhaps a few stores are closing, but definitely not all of them. Char —– – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Because there has been so much favorable information posted >lately about Service Merchandise’s Bridal Registry, I want >to warn everyone that they are going out of business, and >soon! There was an article in one Denver newspaper’s >business section a few weeks ago, saying they would be >closed by Christmas. Both Denver papers are now carrying ads >for "going out of business sales" with "merchandise from >all over the country being sent to us for liquidation". I >am pretty sure this is company-wide, not local. >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! >gloria p
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I had heard these rumors too but then our store went and remodelled…..is it all the stores or just some? Joanna – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Because there has been so much favorable information posted >lately about Service Merchandise’s Bridal Registry, I want >to warn everyone that they are going out of business, and >soon! There was an article in one Denver newspaper’s >business section a few weeks ago, saying they would be >closed by Christmas. Both Denver papers are now carrying ads >for "going out of business sales" with "merchandise from >all over the country being sent to us for liquidation". I >am pretty sure this is company-wide, not local. >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! >gloria p
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The Atlanta/Georgia area stores are NOT closing…they are all hiring and having some nice sales!! Holly
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*I had heard these rumors too but then our store went and remodelled…..is *it all the stores or just some? * *Joanna
*>Because there has been so much favorable information posted *>lately about Service Merchandise’s Bridal Registry, I want *>to warn everyone that they are going out of business, and *>soon! There was an article in one Denver newspaper’s *>business section a few weeks ago, saying they would be *>closed by Christmas. Both Denver papers are now carrying ads *>for "going out of business sales" with "merchandise from *>all over the country being sent to us for liquidation". I *>am pretty sure this is company-wide, not local. *> *>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! I checked with them. here is their response: —start official response— [ The following text is in the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. Some ] [ characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Dear Ms. Gorman, I am happy to say that Service Merchandise is still in business, and we have no plans to go out of business. So please inform you newsgroup of our plans to be around for a long time to come. And be sure to register with us for your upcoming wedding at <servicemerchandise.com>. Sincerely, SMC Internet Customer Service /ksm —end official response— FYI, h. — "So that’s 2 T-1s and a newsfeed….would you like clues with that?" Net Access…The NSP for ISPs….The NOC that rocks around the clock.
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> The Atlanta/Georgia area stores are NOT closing…they are all hiring and > having some nice sales!! > Holly
If you check out their website, it says something like: "The NEW Service Merchandise". So it looks to me like they’re restructuring their stores rather than going out of business. FWIW, we registered there and had several problems with their Customer Service. We joked that they should be named "Merchandise" and take the "Service" out completely. — — Kathy Kula
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Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our wedding date? Any ideas? Cheryl
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> Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but > we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. > Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our > wedding date? > Any ideas? > Cheryl
Well, you could have both of your names and the date, the title of or part of lyrics from your ’song’, a private joke, whatever. As long as it’s something special and timeless to you both- Think it over carefully. Watch out for trendy stuff like using "The Heart Does Go On", ‘Jack and Rose’ instead of your real names, or using the date of the sinking of Titanic instead of your wedding day. Good luck! Liz
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You might try visiting The Wedding Ring Boutique and asking Phil Edelsten for his ideas. He’s an expert on the topic and can give you advice from the standpoint of the manufacturer/professional. http://www.usabride.com/wedringbtq He’s got an on-line form where you can ask questions and request a catalog. Hope that helps, it should. c.jaeger http://www.usabride.com USABRIDE.COM – The only thing FREE about your wedding – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but >we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. >Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our >wedding date? >Any ideas? >Cheryl
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We just put our initials and the date. It will eventually wear off, so we felt it didn’t really matter. Most people don’t even bother. You can’t fit much around it anyway. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but > we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. > Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our > wedding date? > Any ideas? > Cheryl
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:Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but :we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. :Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our :wedding date? : :Any ideas? : We opted with something pretty basic: DB & JL 10-08-98 Not room for too much else, but we wanted something with our initials and date for our children whenever they get the rings. Jerri Lynn ~~~~~ marrying Dave Vegas wedding 10-08-98 Chicago reception 10-10-98 http://members.aol.com/jlfields65/fields_burgess.html ICQ# 7488985 The Yahoo address is real; it’s my spam-filter! I will respond to _legitimate_ eMail. ~~~~~
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I don’t actually plan to have these words engraved on my fiance’s wedding band, but I read in a book about engraving ideas, and several "real life" engravings were given as examples. The last one made me laugh out loud. It said, "PUT IT BACK ON." PerkyPJ with a bit of humor — If you click on reply, remove NOSPAM from email address. This was added to eliminate unsolicited email advertisements when posting to a newsgroup. Remember, PJ says: "Friends are the chocolate chips in the cookies of life."
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<<I don’t actually plan to have these words engraved on my fiance’s wedding band, but I read in a book about engraving ideas, and several "real life" engravings were given as examples. The last one made me laugh out loud. It said, "PUT IT BACK ON." PerkyPJ with a bit of humor >> I wanted to have "Yes, dear" engraved on the wedding bands but Doug wouldn’t go for it. Oh well. Miriam Lewis
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Cheryl, How about; "If found please return to…. " just kidding! Your names and the wedding date would be nice and it would help you in identifying them if they should ever be lost or stolen (sorry, but it happens). Happy Romance Richard Lindquist Passions and Fashions – We want to be YOUR romance store! www.passions-and-fashions.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but >we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. >Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our >wedding date? >Any ideas? >Cheryl
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> >Mu soon to be Husband and I would like to have our rings engraved, but >we are undecided as to what we should have engraved on each ring. >Should we put a small message to each other on the rings? or just our >wedding date? >Any ideas? >Cheryl
Cheryl, I am thinking about using the same phrase that a friend of mine’s bride engraved in his ring, "Till death do us part." I thought that was nice. You can also do other words from the ceremony…I have thought about using something as simple as "I do," or "For better or for worse," etc. I like the idea of surprising him with the engraving. So I may not tell him what it will say until he gets it. There’s always a classic "I love you," or if you’re a fan of the Leonardo DiCaprio/Claire Danes Romeo & Juliet, "I love thee" with your initials X + X, as in "I love thee R + J." While it’s perfectly wonderful to put your names or initials and the date, I want to do something more personal or meaningful for our rings. Just a thought. Anna (marrying Mike April 1, 2000) Wedding website: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/colleyhome/
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One of my friends got "Put it back on" engraved on the inside of her husbands wedding band. Not necessarily romantic, but humorous
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>While it’s perfectly wonderful to put your names or initials and the date, I >want to do something more personal or meaningful for our rings. Just a >thought.
OTOH, we wanted to come up with a nice, meaningful message to engrave, but never thought of anything we liked that would fit, and so somehow we never got around to engraving the rings at all. Sigh. (We’ve passed our second anniversary now.) Well, they’re very unique rings so it’s not as if we really need our initials in order to identify them, but beware of making things overly complicated for yourself. Holly
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>>While it’s perfectly wonderful to put your names or initials and the date, I >want to do something more personal or meaningful for our rings. Just a >thought. >OTOH, we wanted to come up with a nice, meaningful message to engrave, but >never thought of anything we liked that would fit, and so somehow we never got >around to engraving the rings at all. Sigh. (We’ve passed our second >anniversary now.) Well, they’re very unique rings so it’s not as if we really >need our initials in order to identify them, but beware of making things >overly complicated for yourself.
Our rings have the engraving on the *outside*. They’re gold bands cut to form the Hebrew letters that mean, "I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine." Haven’t decided if we’ll have anything engraved on the inside yet. >Holly
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WHy dont your partner want to wear a wedding ring?
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He doesn’t like jewellery!
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I think a watch would be lovely to give him especially with something realy romantic engraved on the back.
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Hi Leslie! You can also find them in the yellow pages under bridal or wedding. I was going to do that, because the dress I like was over a thousand dollars and renting it was 300$! However, I found another that I liked better for sale 240$ so I bought it. I am having my honor attendants rent their dresses. The dress that looks good on all 3 girls (and I spent 2 months taking them out to make sure of what style would go with all three shapes!) was for rent for 55$ at the bridal shop where I bought my dress. The 55$includes alterations for them to fit the honor attendants. They do not sell the rental gowns. One of my sisters liked it so much she wanted to buy it. It turns out that the dress is a Bill Levkoff and to buy would be about 300$! I know some people turn their nose up at renting a dress, but I don’t think it is much different than renting a tux, and this way, my HAs don’t have to spend an arm and a leg on a dress that they will wear only once(: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my >wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you >can how do you find a place that rents them? Please e-mail me directly >if you know of any dress rental shops or nice sanatariams (for me or >mom!!) > yes you can rent a dress…in fact you can rent any type of dressy > attire; they have them listed in the phone book under rentals, or in > some phone books under costume rentals. at any rrate, if they don’t > have what yu seek, they can direct you. > personally, I wouldn’t want a dress that god knows HOW MANY people > wore. I’d shop around for something I could afford to buy…period. > but, that’s me. :) Besides, I MAKE everything I wear. I don’t save > alot (as many would think, but I DO have control over style, fit and > color. > _ _ _ _ Anah _ _ _ _ > Going "BACKWARDS" in Tyme for a wardrobe "FUTURE" > http://www.tiac.net/users/anahysia > Catalogue now available with Edwardian Inspired Designs included > Please remove NOSPAM before replying
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I read in a book to look in the phone book under bridal shops; there are typically only one or two in each city. The book also said you can save up to $600, so it may be worth it. After all, how many times are you going to wear it after the wedding anyway? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my > wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you > can how do you find a place that rents them? Please e-mail me directly > if you know of any dress rental shops or nice sanatariams (for me or > mom!!) > Leslie
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> Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my > wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you > can how do you find a place that rents them? Please e-mail me directly > if you know of any dress rental shops or nice sanatariams (for me or > mom!!)
Leslie, Don’t freak out. Your mom is just trying to save some money. Yes, you can rent wedding dresses. Look in the yellow pages under bridal gowns or wedding. There should be a rental section. Before you try this, though, I would look at resale shops. Remember, wedding dresses are only worn once, and you can get a really good deal. I looked, but I just didn’t find what I wanted. Also, if you rent a dress, it will probably have to still be fitted. I don’t know how they handle that. Dresses are expensive, so spend your money somewhere else if you are tight (like the honeymoon). My dress was under $600, but by the time I bought the shoes, bra, hose, veil, and had it altered, it was over $1000!! You mom is wise in trying to save money on this part, but it might even be cheaper to buy it resale and sell it back than it would be to rent it. Renting a dress is like renting a house, you don’t get anything back on it later. Good Luck! Kelli
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Robin, > But why is it okay for guys to wear the same tuxedo (literaly) that a > hunred guys have worn before, but a woman can’t do the same?
Good point. I’d also like to mention that even though a new dress hasn’t been worn numerous times, it has more than likely been tried on numerous times. Rentals are generally cleaned after each wearing and must be in excellent shape, and most couples who purchase used gowns clean them as well. Even if you sew your own clothing, the fabric has most likely been handled by numerous people. As for tips for the original poster. It’s a personal decision. If you truly can’t see yourself wearing a rented gown, gently let your mom know this. It is definately a viable option for many though, and in most cities, you can find sources in your local phone book (rentals, dress rentals, comstume rentals, party rentals…and even occasionally wedding rentals). Hope this helps! Best wishes, Rachel Sanfordlyn Shreckengast — *WedFrugal Page – http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1940/ *WedSense – http://www.wednet.com/wedsense/wedsense.asp EST
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Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you can how do you find a place that rents them? Please e-mail me directly if you know of any dress rental shops or nice sanatariams (for me or mom!!) Leslie
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>Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my >wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you >can how do you find a place that rents them? Please e-mail me directly >if you know of any dress rental shops or nice sanatariams (for me or >mom!!)
yes you can rent a dress…in fact you can rent any type of dressy attire; they have them listed in the phone book under rentals, or in some phone books under costume rentals. at any rrate, if they don’t have what yu seek, they can direct you. personally, I wouldn’t want a dress that god knows HOW MANY people wore. I’d shop around for something I could afford to buy…period. but, that’s me. :) Besides, I MAKE everything I wear. I don’t save alot (as many would think, but I DO have control over style, fit and color. _ _ _ _ Anah _ _ _ _ Going "BACKWARDS" in Tyme for a wardrobe "FUTURE" http://www.tiac.net/users/anahysia Catalogue now available with Edwardian Inspired Designs included Please remove NOSPAM before replying
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> personally, I wouldn’t want a dress that god knows HOW MANY people > wore. I’d shop around for something I could afford to buy…period. > but, that’s me. :) Besides, I MAKE everything I wear. I don’t save > alot (as many would think, but I DO have control over style, fit and > color.
But why is it okay for guys to wear the same tuxedo (literaly) that a hunred guys have worn before, but a woman can’t do the same? (not directed towards Anah personally, just a general question.) I’m wearing a simple, off-the-rack evening gown that just happens to be white, but if I wanted to do the big puffy dress thing, I’d *definitely* look into renting!
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> personally, I wouldn’t want a dress that god knows HOW MANY people > wore. I’d shop around for something I could afford to buy…period. > but, that’s me. :)
I couldn’t rent a wedding dress either, or buy second hand or bu a second hand wedding ring for that matter. I don’t even know why as I’m not superstitious at all and my fiance’s hiring his suit and that doesn’t bother me at all. As well as renting though the original poster might want to look into buying an end of line dress – my mum saw some of these, and ex-display dresses for sale once for 30-50 pounds, although they needed cleaning there was nothing wrong with them.
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> Help! My mom is on some demented kick and she wants me to rent my > wedding dress??? Can you even do this? I’ve never heard of it. If you > can how do you find a place that rents them?
Yes, you CAN rent a wedding dress. I imagine you could just call any bridal salon–they’d either have them to rent or be able to direct you to a source. This isn’t necessarily as demented as it sounds. I once posted a story on here about a friend who had arranged to rent her gigantic dress. A short while before her wedding, the shop closed down and offered to sell her the gigantic dress for something like $35. (she accepted) And I’m pretty sure the rental places dry-clean the dresses between wearers! (at least, one hopes . . .) Ketchup
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