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Need speaker recommendations

admin — Tue, 11 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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> I’ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it’s the shitty transpoter > series. > Never had a problem, and believe me, I’m playing loud. Except for the POP > when turnng off. > —

If I’m not mistaken, the trasporter series is a step up from the VX.

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I’ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it’s the shitty transpoter series. Never had a problem, and believe me, I’m playing loud. Except for the POP when turnng off. — Henry! "Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you’re playing. I had this black guitar and I was going, ‘Gem, I can’t seem to dress with this guitar’." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you > need > > to > > > turn down. > > > Good luck! > > > Corey > > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta > go. > I > > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs > loaded > > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget > it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger > My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for > about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to > remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only > worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed > a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were > just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated > for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a > tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you > don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an > svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a > kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable > pops from my speakers.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you > need > > to > > > turn down. > > > Good luck! > > > Corey > > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta > go. > I > > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs > loaded > > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget > it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger > My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for > about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to > remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only > worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed > a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were > just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated > for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a > tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you > don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an > svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a > kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable > pops from my speakers.

Whenever I see a really thin, compact power amp for bass, I am suspicious of its ability to handle the thermal loads that are encountered with normal use. I wonder if the sensor that shuts it down was defective? Or if it was "out of adjustment" if there was one. I doubt the latter. Most of those are fixed at a certain temperature. Still, the sensors have been known to be defective from time to time. My VX410 cost me $300. I forget if I paid shipping or not. Probably not. I was going to sell it since I have since obtained some beefier enclosures that I know will not burp or fart during normal high volume use. Then I turn around and order an Agile V2 six string bass from Rondo the other day when the price dipped to $199 and some change. I’ve been wanting an active six string, but I don’t think I’ll be able to justify an expensive one. Hence the Agile. Well, now I just might need that Hartke to handle the upper end of the register. It’s not eating anything and it won’t be worth any less five years from now, so I guess I’ll hold on to it. The VX410 has a power rating of 400 watts RMS. I suppose they rate the crossover and tweeter sufficiently to absorb the rest of the power. I suppose… I like Ampeg equipment myself. Ed Cregger

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need > to > > turn down. > > Good luck! > > Corey > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta go. > I > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs loaded > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger

My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable pops from my speakers.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need > to > turn down. > Good luck! > Corey > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta go. I > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The 115 > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs loaded > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you play > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget it.

How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke equipment? What kind of failures? TIA Ed Cregger

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Aguilar uses custom Eminence – I ordered a replacement from the Aguilar web site once, and it had an eminence custom order sheet in the box when I received it – obviously an oversight. Aguilar sells its own replacement speakers via its web site, and they are reasonably priced and special tuned for your cabinet. I’d recommend them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. > Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct > from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it > doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, > other than massive low end response.

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I’d go here http://www.webervst.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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>John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask.

Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, other than massive low end response.

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> Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass.

John, I know that Epifani uses Eminence. They say they’re custom-built, but no matter how "custom" they are, they won’t vary drastically from the stock designs. Don’t know about Aguilar.

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>>The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker. > Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a > basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived.

I’ve done it! And it wasn’t off the back of a truck either! So I know it CAN happen! All it takes is enough misalignment until the voice coil starts to rub…then doom soon follows. Benj — Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!

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I just found out that Aguilar uses eminence too. >John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. > Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct > from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it > doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, > other than massive low end response.

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John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of >speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every >speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I >can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard >mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to >replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. >Vinny > For those Hartke boxes, I’d strongly suggest the Eminence > Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10" driver is not super > efficient, but will perform with a broad frequency response in that > box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab, > since it has a fairly low resonant frequency, and a low Vas factor, > meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab. > Fane and RCF also make premium drivers, and Carvin also sells > OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence). > Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency), a low Vas (how well it > produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or > higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s > of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use.

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I’m surprised no one has asked this question: How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need to turn down. Good luck! Corey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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>I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of >speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every >speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I >can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard >mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to >replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. >Vinny

For those Hartke boxes, I’d strongly suggest the Eminence Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10" driver is not super efficient, but will perform with a broad frequency response in that box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab, since it has a fairly low resonant frequency, and a low Vas factor, meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab. Fane and RCF also make premium drivers, and Carvin also sells OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence). Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency), a low Vas (how well it produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use.

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Yup. I’m impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me in that area. — Henry! "Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you’re playing. I had this black guitar and I was going, ‘Gem, I can’t seem to dress with this guitar’." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need to > turn down. > Good luck! > Corey > I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. Vinny

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I’m a former guitar player and those brands make pretty good guitar amp speakers, but I’m not sure about bass cab….I know that Bag End uses some pretty swift sounding speakers in their $$$$$$ cabinets, but

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> I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks.

Yeah, Eminence and Celestion make some good stuff ($$$), Peavey makes some good buys as well if you want to save some cash. Also consider the speakers in the Carvin catalog. Decent prices. I’d say get a cast frame speaker for the 15" if possible (About $110) from Carvin. The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much trashes the speaker. The 10" ones are lighter and won’t be quite as prone to damage, but if you can afford it, I’d get the cast frames for those as well. OF course, Peavey or Carvin speakers won’t have the tone of the big bux cabs but there is a REASON they cost big bux! Just price some of those drivers. And let me say one more thing about drivers. I have a Fender BXR 200. It came with the Fender 15" Speaker. I also happened to have a similar speaker which is a "hollywood" brand. It’s a West Coast thing designed for sound sytems and VERY well made with HUGE magnet. So I started swapping speakers just for fun. What I found was that the Fender speaker had a lot of distortion in it while the other speaker had a very pure "hi fi" kind of tone. Now you might think that more pure speaker would always sound better. But that was NOT the case! What I found was that the tone you got with a certain speaker very much depended upon the bass you put through it! For example my Ken Smith just came to life on Fender driver, but sounded thin and weak with the "hi fi" driver. Just the opposite was true for my Modulus. The distortion of the Fender Speaker gave it a really muddy tone, while the sound system driver, made it ring like a bell! I guess the point I’m making here is that choosing a brand of speaker for bass cabs has a great deal to do with tone and ALSO depends on the bass you intend to play through that cab. I guess this is why cab building is still an "art". Benj — Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!

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>The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker.

Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived. K

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I’ve used RCF 15’s in my Traynor box for 10 years with ZERO problems. S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker. > Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a > basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived. > K

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OT: High Anxiety….

admin — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi Kita! > Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot, at random times, > without signing in.. That’s what I used to do, just pop in and keep them > always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent > visitors get much better care.

Yup…..I like to leave them with no idea when I will be *flying* in. Sometimes tho I feel I should arrive with my jaw wired shut! > My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went, it was > a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the > staff on open house days, or inspection weeks. The rest of the year, > they were always understaffed. > My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I’m > sure) some temp (never recovered it). (don’t bring any valuable > jewelry or stuff)

That sucks! I know what you mean about the valubles……I told them I was leaving my most valuable posession with them….my mom. > But there are a lot of angels there, too. G-d bless them, it’s a hard job.. > Make friends with the nursing aides, they know Everything..

Yeah, it is a dam hard job….not just anyone can do it….not and do it well that is. I like to bring little appreciation gifts for some of the folks working there….I figger it couldn’t hurt…..plus I really do appreciate what they do. > > Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped!

Thanks Kita! You got that right…..I just brought in my laundry off the line….how easy it is with 2 footsies. I had spent weeks figgering out how I could manage to hang my own laundry from the wheelchair….it was quite an ordeal…but I did it. Hell it’s not like I was busy doing anything else but I hope to NEVER have that experience again!! you’re about to be an old fart ain’t cha!! Heehee you go girl! Ripley / Pinky — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Thanks for the floating wishes!! :-) I’d do just about anything to make things right for my sweet little mom……except smoke that is. I’ll be glad when the initial move is done. At least I won’t have to do her hair again…..last time I washed it & cut it…….I dang near flipped her in the sink…..the stoopid chair would not co-operate, and in the process I got her soaked and lots of hair down her back!! She took it well…..I just laughed allot and honked her nose!! She’s grrreat! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ripley? > HELLO, RIPLEY!? > COME IN RIPLEY! > YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!! > HELLO? > She seems…kind of upset about something. > If only she could come out of her shell, just a little bit, and express > herself… > Sigh… > All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful, and > my hat’s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you’re going thru, > and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Oh, Ripley, I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for you! I can’t imagine what you’ve been going through nor how it is for you now. I only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care of her as long as necessary, and then certainly would want the best care for her when she was beyond my help. My grandmother is failing fast now, and we’re all grieving over how to handle that. My thoughts and feelings are with you, Ripley. Try to hang on and know that you have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible. *Huge Hugs* — BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! %% (—-) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ ~f3as3~ Quit since 11/01/2001 http://binniebee.com http://www.cyberdigs.com

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Hi Sally…. > ((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) Gawd, it sounds like you’re going > thru hell right now! I’m not going to stick up for the place she’s at > except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she’s > taking (coumadin, etc)…but I’d be totally pissed off if this were MY > mother, too. I would be fuming and want a few answers myself.

Ya, she is on a blood thinner….could be that…..it’s a hard thing to see, for sure. > As for the incontinence pads, if you’re getting the generic brands, they > usually are ‘crap’ but the only way you can find out is to try different > kinds. Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn’t the best choice is > all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???)

No, I pay for em……I am always suspicious when they want the ones that will *hold NH….medicaid will pay for the diapers and her over the counter meds too!! :-) > I guess I’m trying to look at the positive side, but like I said, if this were MY > mother, I’d be more than just a little upset. That alzheimers facility > that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I > quit it after just a few months!). They changed the residents every TWO > hours. It didn’t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap > in their pants….if it wasn’t their time to be changed, I saw more than > one caregiver who looked the other way. Pissed me off to think that > they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. I say ‘what > goes around, comes around’….

I try to look at the positive side too. Welp….if it’s good for the goose….it’s good for the gander…..I think that anyone who can do that should be forced to sit in their own for an hour or two or four!! Bastards!! oops…… :-( > Restraints being used when not needed?? They shouldn’t use them at all > without a doctors order. At least that’s a state LAW here in Oregon. > made…..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! I don’t want to upset you any

more than you are already, Rip….but > sounds to me like it’s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that > place.

No, no….that is stuff going on in the NH that is right here in town. The one my aunts think grrrrrr….gggrrrrrrrrrrr somebody stop me!! Don’t ever judge a book by it’s cover…..but ya gotta keep in > mind that we’re not all bad eggs! Cameras in every room of facility > should be a law but it’s an expense that most facilities won’t deal with > unless something drastic happens. (We’ve finally got more security > cameras up in the place that I work….NOT because of abuse or neglect > tho. Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the > elderly folks.) If I’m ever able to open the adult foster home that I > would LOVE to do, I wouldn’t hesitate for a minute when it comes to > cameras in the place.

You know there’s a school that’s been closed here that would be perfect. They just decided to build a new one……sometimes, when I ride by the buildings I picture a home like > It’s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right > now. I would hate to be in your shoes, lady. One of my residents is > finally moving into an adult foster home this week. Her family wanted > to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are > other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and > she’s still mentally ‘with it’. I know that if they put her into a NH,

living facilities are taking in those that really need NH care…….and then it’s tough noggies for the lo. money always talks. > Take good care, Ripley! Get the move over with….then sit back for a > bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed…what good would > that do your Mom?

Thanks Sally…..no smoking….lots of swearing and pacing and willing the phone to ring and nervous eating and walks, but no to smoking dammit!! I finally got sick of waiting today and called….there is a paperwork holdup…..someone didn’t do the evaluation or didn’t put the paper thru……they can’t seem to figger out which! OK……I’ll just wait…..everything else is done……they just read the PPD test Friday…negative…….so once they pull their fingers out of their butts it’ll be a go…..till then I will eat evrything that can’t run away. :-) just call me fatlizzy….. burp…..pfffttt > BIG hugs to both of ya! > Sally (hoping you’re not pissed off about this post)

Hell no!! don’t want to try and piss in the pot blindfolded!! I’ve got a bid on a Halloween costume….. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2953053468&categor… mom is and fool with all the old folks and try to bite their necks!! What ever happened to the transylvania twist!!!!! LOL Ripley / off to sharpen fangs…. — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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> I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you

Hey Maddie……if it goes well for mom, then I’m all set!! Thanks… Ripley > —– > Maddie, 5 months

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> >roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Hey Ripley. > Just thinkin’ o’ ya > steveb

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Thanks Dawn……I’m an only child….so she’s stuck with me! I have my moments! Ripley

> Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. I hope > the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly. > Dawn > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Hi BB…..

> Oh, Ripley, I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for you! I can’t > imagine what you’ve been going through nor how it is for you now. I > only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care > of her as long as necessary, and then certainly would want the best care > for her when she was beyond my help. My grandmother is failing fast > now, and we’re all grieving over how to handle that.

> My thoughts and feelings are with you, Ripley. Try to hang on and know > that you have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that > care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible.

Thanks BB… :-) I’d like to get it over with….but there’s been a holdup with the all important paperwork…..not at my end.….I’ve done mine….so far as they will let me. One day at a time…….well wishes coming back atcha with your gm. Ripley / anxious….but holdin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> *Huge Hugs* > — > BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! > %% > (—-) > ( >__< ) > ^^ ~~ ^^ > ~f3as3~ > Quit since 11/01/2001 > http://binniebee.com > http://www.cyberdigs.com

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>roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!!

Hey Ripley. Just thinkin’ o’ ya steveb

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((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) Gawd, it sounds like you’re going thru hell right now! I’m not going to stick up for the place she’s at except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she’s taking (coumadin, etc)…but I’d be totally pissed off if this were MY mother, too. I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. As for the incontinence pads, if you’re getting the generic brands, they usually are ‘crap’ but the only way you can find out is to try different kinds. Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn’t the best choice is all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) I guess I’m trying to look at the positive side, but like I said, if this were MY mother, I’d be more than just a little upset. That alzheimers facility that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I quit it after just a few months!). They changed the residents every TWO hours. It didn’t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap in their pants….if it wasn’t their time to be changed, I saw more than one caregiver who looked the other way. Pissed me off to think that they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. I say ‘what goes around, comes around’…. Restraints being used when not needed?? They shouldn’t use them at all without a doctors order. At least that’s a state LAW here in Oregon. made…..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! I don’t want to upset you any more than you are already, Rip….but sounds to me like it’s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that place. Don’t ever judge a book by it’s cover…..but ya gotta keep in mind that we’re not all bad eggs! Cameras in every room of facility should be a law but it’s an expense that most facilities won’t deal with unless something drastic happens. (We’ve finally got more security cameras up in the place that I work….NOT because of abuse or neglect tho. Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the elderly folks.) If I’m ever able to open the adult foster home that I would LOVE to do, I wouldn’t hesitate for a minute when it comes to cameras in the place. It’s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right now. I would hate to be in your shoes, lady. One of my residents is finally moving into an adult foster home this week. Her family wanted to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and she’s still mentally ‘with it’. I know that if they put her into a NH, Take good care, Ripley! Get the move over with….then sit back for a bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed…what good would that do your Mom? BIG hugs to both of ya! Sally (hoping you’re not pissed off about this post) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. I hope the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly. Dawn — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Ripley: >Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my >Alzheimers mom has an >opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here >comes the >rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how >she will >react…..gawd!

… I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you —– Maddie, 5 months

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"Ripley" wrote OK…why the hell > doesn’t SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! …..Fuck em!! >… Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!!….OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh……I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move ….dammit!….I hope I don’t > show my ass too much ….like a fly on

Ripley? HELLO, RIPLEY!? COME IN RIPLEY! YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!! HELLO? She seems…kind of upset about something. If only she could come out of her shell, just a little bit, and express herself… Sigh… All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful, and my hat’s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you’re going thru, and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it.

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Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot, at random times, without signing in.. That’s what I used to do, just pop in and keep them always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent visitors get much better care. My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went, it was a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the staff on open house days, or inspection weeks. The rest of the year, they were always understaffed. My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I’m sure) some temp (never recovered it). (don’t bring any valuable jewelry or stuff) But there are a lot of angels there, too. G-d bless them, it’s a hard job.. Make friends with the nursing aides, they know Everything.. Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will react…..gawd! For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but it’ll do!!!! :-) roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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… I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you —– Maddie, 5 months

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>roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!!

Hey Ripley. Just thinkin’ o’ ya steveb

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Hi BB…..

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Thanks Dawn……I’m an only child….so she’s stuck with me! I have my moments! Ripley

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> I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you

Hey Maddie……if it goes well for mom, then I’m all set!! Thanks… Ripley > —– > Maddie, 5 months

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> >roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Hey Ripley. > Just thinkin’ o’ ya > steveb

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more than you are already, Rip….but > sounds to me like it’s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that > place.

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Any new music meccas?

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This is a little off the usual subject but I want to move from the southeast music scene. Is there any new music meccas happening these days? Like Vegas was 10 years ago or Boulder was in the early 1970’s. I need to find work mainly playing but I’m a fledgling producer too and want to live somewhere nice but cheaper than the west coast. Is there such places anymore? Also have a NOS pair of Brimar CV4004’s and some Mullard ECC83’s if anybody needs them. Peace

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Austin, Tx?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is a little off the usual subject but I want to move from the southeast > music scene. Is there any new music meccas happening these days? Like Vegas > was 10 years ago or Boulder was in the early 1970’s. I need to find work > mainly playing but I’m a fledgling producer too and want to live somewhere > nice but cheaper than the west coast. Is there such places anymore? Also > have a NOS pair of Brimar CV4004’s and some Mullard ECC83’s if anybody needs > them. Peace

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> This is a little off the usual subject but I want to move from the southeast > music scene. Is there any new music meccas happening these days? Like Vegas > was 10 years ago or Boulder was in the early 1970’s. I need to find work > mainly playing but I’m a fledgling producer too and want to live somewhere > nice but cheaper than the west coast. Is there such places anymore? Also > have a NOS pair of Brimar CV4004’s and some Mullard ECC83’s if anybody needs > them. Peace

Austin, Texas is probably the hottest music "mecca" right now. also Vegas is still somewhat hot as is northern Virginia (near D.C.& not cheap), and of course old standby’s such as Seattle (west coast & not cheap) & Nashville (southeast) might be a good time to establish a beachhead in some place like Phoenix or Tucson or El Paso or Colorado Springs before they get really hot. if you are talented you can get work anywhere in the world that you like the weather

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is a little off the usual subject but I want to move from the > southeast > music scene. Is there any new music meccas happening these days? Like > Vegas > was 10 years ago or Boulder was in the early 1970’s. I need to find work > mainly playing but I’m a fledgling producer too and want to live somewhere > nice but cheaper than the west coast. Is there such places anymore? Also > have a NOS pair of Brimar CV4004’s and some Mullard ECC83’s if anybody > needs > them. Peace > Austin, Texas is probably the hottest music "mecca" right now. > also Vegas is still somewhat hot as is northern Virginia (near D.C.& not > cheap), and of course old standby’s such as Seattle (west coast & not cheap) > & Nashville (southeast) > might be a good time to establish a beachhead in some place like Phoenix or > Tucson or El Paso or Colorado Springs before they get really hot. > if you are talented you can get work anywhere in the world that you like the > weather

I guess you could call austin that, but its music scene is really tiering, there is not alot of variety in their scene, and everyone plays guitar, it is so much work to find bassist or drummers down there. When I was liveing there Austin just killed my desire for makeing music, its jsut to much of the same, no demand for music really, its just there for people to drink to. 99% of the local bands are jsut ignored for the big names that are always comeing in. It is not a good place for the musician or producer, there is already way to many. I would go somewhere where the music scene is just starting. Its alot more fun this way, the venues are alot more open to different kinds of music, the people are alot more intrested in the music, they are used to not haveing live music, once it comes they go nuts for it, its great. I have been watching this hapen up here in Duluth for the past few years years (minus my year in austin) slowly building and now it seems like there is 5 new bands every week. Poeple are opening studios and practice spaces things are getting good. Austin has been going for quite some time now, its life most likely is going to come to an end soon. Um, Tucson has no music scene. And it is not always about talent. Austin is about conenctions, who you know, it has nothing to do with talent. Nsahville seems like the best place to be right now as far as a national music mecca is concerced, lots of things are happening there. Alt Country is just starting gain real acceptance and nashville is the source. It will be a happening city in a few more years most likely. But I would just pick a city you like that has small scene and thats it. It is alot more fun and intresting this way. If you like to struggle and want to try and jam yourself in a population already overflowing with guitarists and producers you should really like Austin. There is no need or demand for anything in Austin other then more roads and fewer people. However Hyde Park is a cheap and very nice place to live if you do end up in Austin, great location, couple miles from downtown with the university as a buffer. All the young couples who are just starting their families end up there. adam

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is a little off the usual subject but I want to move from the >southeast > music scene. Is there any new music meccas happening these days? Like >Vegas > was 10 years ago or Boulder was in the early 1970’s. I need to find work > mainly playing but I’m a fledgling producer too and want to live somewhere > nice but cheaper than the west coast. Is there such places anymore? Also > have a NOS pair of Brimar CV4004’s and some Mullard ECC83’s if anybody >needs > them. Peace >Austin, Texas is probably the hottest music "mecca" right now.

I’ve heard basically what Adam said in his post – Austin is a great place to hear music, but not such a great place to try to make a living playing music. I’ve heard a lot of cool bands coming out of the Denton, TX area, I don’t know if that means it’s an easy place to make a living as a musician. >also Vegas is still somewhat hot as is northern Virginia (near D.C.& not >cheap), and of course old standby’s such as Seattle (west coast & not cheap) >& Nashville (southeast)

I don’t know about Vegas. I’m in No. VA, which is just part of the DC scene, and involves people and clubs in the MD suburbs as well. I think this a great place to make and hear music. There are some wonderful bands and musicians and and I’m proud to call many of them friends. However there’s not a *huge* amount of support – i.e., it’s not a town where many many people go out to hear live music. I guess that’s true of most cities now, compared to the old days. Most of the musicians I know are either holding down a day job or have a spouse with a good job. It *is* an expensive place to live. I used to know Seattle musicians who thought that Seattle was a problem because there are relatively few cities near by, so to do even a little tour means lots of driving. One *good* thing about the DC area is that you’re in the middile of a fairly densely-packed east coast, with a lot of cities and college towns just a few hours away. >might be a good time to establish a beachhead in some place like Phoenix or >Tucson or El Paso or Colorado Springs before they get really hot. >if you are talented you can get work anywhere in the world that you like the >weather

I think the age-old problem is that the "Meccas" are the places that get a rep as having lots of good bands, and that means more competition for anyone who goes there to be a part of it. If you are really good you do have a better chance of being seen by the "industry." That doesn’t mean you get to make money 5 nights a week. I can’t think of any places that are known for good music that don’t have a lot of competition for the available gigs. Of course it depends on what you do, too. If you play in a well-known cover band, or a good wedding band, or you do music for video, that’s different than playing in a heavy metal or a bluegrass band. But you knew that. -Scott McKnight

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Suggestions for low wattage amp with reverb please!

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Hi, Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? Thanks, Paul Netherlands.

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One of the amps I started looking into, but never got out to try one was a Laney TT20. It’s a single channel amp, with a 12" speaker, two EL84 tubes, and a reverb. I’m still considering getting one, but I had to spend money elsewhere first. Since I never tried it, I can’t tell you how it sounds though. Pete >Hi, >Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it >was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A >tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I >have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you >know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? >Thanks, >Paul >Netherlands.

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What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes?

I really like my Ampeg J-12T. Bassman44

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Traynor Guitar Mate III from Canada. It’s a big box for the 2 El84s, but you don’t have to bent over as far to play with the EQ. Foot switch able Trem and R. Peace Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, > Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it > was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A > tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I > have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > Thanks, > Paul > Netherlands.

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Tried the 30 it did Fender pretty well and felt good, I understand they spend extra time on the bench. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > One of the amps I started looking into, but never got out to try one > was a Laney TT20. It’s a single channel amp, with a 12" speaker, two > EL84 tubes, and a reverb. I’m still considering getting one, but I > had to spend money elsewhere first. Since I never tried it, I can’t > tell you how it sounds though. > Pete >Hi, >Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it >was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A >tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I >have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you >know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? >Thanks, >Paul >Netherlands. > — > You don’t have to go home, > but you can’t stay here.

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Good choice. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > I really like my Ampeg J-12T. > Bassman44

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VOX AC15 or VOX AC15TBX.

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> Tried the 30 it did Fender pretty well and felt good, I understand they spend > extra time on the bench. Chris

If you mean that the Peavey C30 is difficult to service, and takes extra time on the bench, I’ve heard that too. However, they have break first, and I’ve also heard that is a rare occurrence. Lots of the new amps with multiple circuit boards are difficult to work on, Peavey has no patent on that concept. That’s why anyone that wants a truly service friendly amp, gets either a well serviced vintage Point to Point wired amp, or a simply designed ’boutique’. John King http://www.angelfire.com/blues/rockinjohn/rockinamps.html

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> Hi, > Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it > was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A > tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I > have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > Thanks, > Paul > Netherlands.

If 3 on a 30 watt amp was to loud I think you might want to go lower the 15 watts. The differance between 15 and 30 watts is not much. I would go with a SE amp, get down under 10 watts. It will give you alot more play with tone, you will have a much more usuable volume knob and will be able to bring it up abit in volume if you want to get your guitar out in front for abit. I would reccomend the THD UniValve with a 2×12 cab and some sort of external reverb since it is without. The UniValve through a 2×12 should be plenty loud, or pretty muuch any other SE amp. adam

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I’ll try the Univalve on my Genz Benz 2 x 12. I like a bit of punch in my clean sounds, so I should get some higher on the volume knob without being too loud for the PA man. A single ended tube amp is probably the way to go for me. Thanks, Paul – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it > was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A > tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I > have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > Thanks, > Paul > Netherlands. > If 3 on a 30 watt amp was to loud I think you might want to go lower the > 15 watts. The differance between 15 and 30 watts is not much. I would go > with a SE amp, get down under 10 watts. It will give you alot more play > with tone, you will have a much more usuable volume knob and will be > able to bring it up abit in volume if you want to get your guitar out in > front for abit. I would reccomend the THD UniValve with a 2×12 cab and > some sort of external reverb since it is without. The UniValve through a > 2×12 should be plenty loud, or pretty muuch any other SE amp. > adam

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the gibson goldtone 15rv has a great sound, plus a 6 watt triode switch which should work great for you- at 15 watt pentode, this is a loud amp, but by golly, what a sweet roar! you might be able to find a trace elliot velocette 12, basically the same amp. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it > was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A > tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I > have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > Thanks, > Paul > Netherlands.

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>the gibson goldtone 15rv has a great sound, plus a 6 watt triode >switch which should work great for you- >at 15 watt pentode

This is better than my previous suggestion of an AC15. I own an AC15TBX but have the 30 watt version of the Goldtone, the GA 30RVS. The pentode/triode option of the GA 15RV would be quite useful.

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Carvin makes a 14 watt amp that can be run in triode or pentode configuration. Has "long tailed" reverb and sounded well to me FWIW. The amp practically cries for a Weber VST to match the circuitry. "Carvin’s Vintage 16 is the amp everyone has been asking for. This "all tube" amp features 16 watts from two EL84’s and is switchable from its normal Pentode to "Triode" operation delivering 5 watts. There is nothing sweeter for recording! Great soak and tone is delivered from 3 12AX7 tubes. The Vintage 16 features Volume, Soak, bass, mid, treble and reverb (Accutronics tank)."

> the gibson goldtone 15rv has a great sound, plus a 6 watt triode > switch which should work great for you- > at 15 watt pentode, this is a loud amp, but by golly, what a sweet > roar! > you might be able to find a trace elliot velocette 12, basically the > same amp.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Gigged last night with a Peavey Deltablues in a cover/wedding band. On 3 it > was too loud, on 2 the soundman said it was alright, but the sound sucked. A > tubeamp sounds good when the power tubes are working harder. So I guess I > have to go down from 30 watt to 15 watt? What good sounding amps do you > know, with reverb that are 15 watt, 2 x EL84 tubes? > Thanks, > Paul > Netherlands.

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Speaking for myself, I’ve been trying to find either the 15rv or the velocette 1×12 — it’s not easy. Some of the relatively well-stocked guitar stores in Madison WI haven’t even heard of either model. Called a dealer in Chicago who told me he could get a 15RV - he said he’d check into it and get back to me; two weeks later I haven’t heard back yet. Most of the goldtone 15 watters and trace elliott velocettes I’ve found on e-bay are the 1×10 models, not the 1×12. Also, the velocettes are notorious for blowing output trannies and sometimes other parts; there are some mods that are needed to help prevent this. Just so you know. Having said that, the rep of either amp for vintage Class-A tone is outstanding. Wish I could actually try one somewhere. Grant

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Royal Carribean St. Thomas Wedding

admin — Sat, 04 Jan 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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We are booked on Radiance of the Sea for the March 1 Southern Caribbean sailing out of San Juan. We just finished making all the arrangements for our wedding on Megan’s Bay Beach in St. Thomas and we’re really excited! Has anyone else out there gotten married with this plan? It will be just the two of us and it sounds beautiful and romantic. Any tips for making the day as easy as possible that Royal Caribbean doesn’t tell you? Anyone else booked for this cruise? Never been to the southern Caribbean, this is our third cruise and our first on RCCL having previously done Carnival. Hoping for less kids! Really looking forward to Barbados and Antigua we hear they are beautiful. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Lisa

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Lisa: My husband and I didn’t get married thru a ship, but did marry at Black Beards Castle In St. Thomas back in 1992 over looking the harbor with 20 of our family and friends. We took a cruise this past fall to celebrate 10 great years with our three children. Our daughter Meagan is named after the place you will marry. We opted not to spell her name the way Magens Bay is spelled but her name is because of our gorgeous wedding, and stay in St. Thomas. Our trip was a Western Caribbean trip and it was nostalgic to be in Cozmel (since we met in cancun) so we got new wedding bands to celebrate. Our trip next fall on the NCL Dawn (with kids) will show them where our wedding took place and why our gorgeous daughter (6) was named after the gorgeous bay! Have fun it is a romantic place- and despite not having all of our pals, and family on our day, it seemed like the two of us during our vows. RCCL was pulling out and honking – as I said my vows. Best of Luck Kelly H

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Congrats. You will love the Radiance OTS. Dining room food just so-so (IMO) but the buffet and alternate restaurants are quite good. JOHN – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We are booked on Radiance of the Sea for the March 1 Southern > Caribbean sailing out of San Juan. We just finished making all the > arrangements for our wedding on Megan’s Bay Beach in St. Thomas and > we’re really excited! Has anyone else out there gotten married with > this plan? It will be just the two of us and it sounds beautiful and > romantic. Any tips for making the day as easy as possible that Royal > Caribbean doesn’t tell you? Anyone else booked for this cruise? > Never been to the southern Caribbean, this is our third cruise and our > first on RCCL having previously done Carnival. Hoping for less kids! > Really looking forward to Barbados and Antigua we hear they are > beautiful. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. > Lisa

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> We are booked on Radiance of the Sea for the March 1 Southern > Caribbean sailing out of San Juan. We just finished making all the > arrangements for our wedding on Megan’s Bay Beach in St. Thomas and > we’re really excited! Has anyone else out there gotten married with > this plan? It will be just the two of us and it sounds beautiful and > romantic.

Maegens Bay is one of the most beautiful areas I have ever seen. We were just there last month and I got a shot of it with my new digital camera. It absolutely took my breath away. You will get some great pictures because the backgrounds will be just fabulous. Best wishes to you. I hope I get to do the Radiance soon because the itenerary sounds just about perfect. Just do it early and don’t get caught in the St Thomas 5:00pm traffic back to the ship. TR

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Norwegian Sun Review

admin — Sat, 19 Oct 2002 00:00:00 +0000

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I never did either (wait that long or remember doing so) we got in to Miami about 12, and on board the ship – to our room about 3:20 – we got in line about 1:15 (after security check points) which we had no problem with, the wait was the huge, massive line to check in. Terrible. Otherwise besides the no unlimited drink bands for adults- and the staff upon greeting, over all it met our expectations. But to be SO excited, with hungry kids, and to get on a ship you had no idea to go to, we expected a little "more". Still sad to be home. Kelly

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I suggest to folks on this ship or thinking of it to go in the night before if can be done. We "heard" they had trouble getting the group before us off on time, and were an hour behind. Oh, even if a Latitudes member – I think your wait ranked close to ours. Perhaps we were just unlucky, and we made the best then out of a slow, tiresome situation. There were many people bitching, "could have been to las vegas by now" I understood. My kids did ok, though for the wait. I wondered how folks that had a bad back, or such handled it all or the folks with kids younger then ours (say 2 or smaller). Anyway, off to sleep.. it was a fun ship, it lacks a little I understand how old time cruising and the freestyle can be so different, for us, with our kids and such it worked tremendously well. Will catch up here soon.. (since I am now in the withdrawl period). Sincerely: Kelly H

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I never did either (wait that long or remember doing so) we got in to Miami > about 12, and on board the ship – to our room about 3:20 – we got in line > about 1:15 (after security check points) which we had no problem with, the > wait was the huge, massive line to check in. Terrible. > I wonder if the ship arrived late and the rooms were not ready. Glad > you did not let it ruin your cruise. Some others could learn from that. > Thanks for posting your review. > — > Charles

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Sounds like y’all had lots of fun! Thanks for sharing your cruise review with us. Diana Ball Near Houston, TX NCL Sea

Greek Wedding

admin — Wed, 15 May 2002 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi Kathy, ti kavis? Well I just got your e-mail, because I do not check my e-mail between Thursday and Friday. I wanted to ask you if you are are considering having your wedding in Greece. I see that your last name is Greek. Where are you from? I am from Corfu and he is from Crete. He was born In Canada and raised in the US, so 50% of his relatives are here. We are having a BIG argument about where the wedding is going to be held. As tradition has it it has to be where the bride is from. But he wants to have it here. I want to have it in my village in Corfu, in the same church were my grandparents, my parents, aunts and uncles had it. Ever since I was a little girl I would dream about having a traditional village wedding with all the preparations and customs that take place. We had a very traditional betrothal at my house – we do not own it – and we had a very traditional engagment at his cousin’s house -because he does not own a house either or his parents. Now is the wedding. He had agreed to have it in Corfu, but then when he started telling his relatives that live here about the Greek wedding, I guess he also changed his mind, and now wants the wedding here! I am very upset! There is no way that I will be a bride here. I do not know if you know how the traditions go, but I have to be dressed a bride in my parents home – but we do not own anything here, we own a beautiful house in Greece. My father has to take me to the church in his car, and we just bought a beautiful white mercedes just for the wedding, and have it in Greece. I am upset and need some support from any other people who go through the same things. Any advice would be helpful, se efharisto, Fotini.

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Hi Fotini, Wow, I really feel for you and the situation you are in. Personally, if I had the opportunity to get married in Greece, I would. It’s so much more exciting than the weddings here and they last longer. John and I are from Kozani and the wedding lasts for about one full week of ‘glendi’. It’s too much of a convenience though for John and I to get married here. An option that you and your fiance can consider is the following: Have two "weddings". 1. Get married in Greece and make sure you have excellent video coverage. This will be THE wedding, church and everything. 2. When you come back with your fiance you can have your second wedding. Here is the difference though. Have a reception only. At the reception you can have a full screen where you will play the video of your wedding in Greece for those in Canada that couldn’t make it. Do everything exactly as you would if you WERE getting married here the only difference is that your guests would view your ceremony on screen rather than in person. Also remember, most people that are invited to the wedding don’t even show up at the church, they come for the reception. If you like you can wear your wedding dress again on that night and get your money’s worth. Everyone will see the wedding as if it was here. Also note, if his relatives, or anyone else from here on either side, REALLY want to be there for the ’stefana’ they will go to Greece. For the others that can’t make it they will be able to celebrate the wedding with you both and that will be just as good. Pass this idea to your fiance he may like it. It’s a bit more expensive but it would be nice. Keep in touch and let me know what’s going on, Katy

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>>Does anyone have a suggestion for an appropriate gift? >Jelly. >Ron Ng Knows!

So the assholes have spoken. I’m willing to bet that Greeks would love someting from America that is american. Like Uncle Sam Hot Dogs and Apple pie. I would search out something that is uniquely american. You are a what you are

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Hi…thanks to those who have replied with constructive info!! My cousin is American and is marrying a Greek woman. They won’t do all of the traditional aspects. I think we will probably buy our gift in Greece rather than carry something along. They are in their own apartment already but probably don’t have a lot of "stuff". I really enjoyed reading all the information about the Greek traditions. Thank you so much!

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>Does anyone have a suggestion for an appropriate gift?

Jelly. Ron Ng Knows!

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thats a toughy it depends if the ceremony is orthodox greek or more hellenic. since im "half greek" and had to take the obligatory classes for Orthodox greeks (pretty much its basic training for girls and boys on how to live and do special days like easter, weddings, … etc I can enlighten you on an Orthodox Greek wedding) (note I have strayed from this and do not believe in these customs my self at all) also everything in a greek ceremony is strickt in sayings and how and when to say things. CEREMONY (note most ceremonies are conducted on a sunday) The number three is very significant throughout all aspects of the entire wedding because it symbolizes the Holy Trinity. and you will be reminded of this during the ceremony several times. The rings are blessed by the celebrant who takes them in his hand and, making the sign of the cross over the heads of the couple, says, "The Servant of God, Demetrios , is betrothed to the handmaiden of God, Elpitha , in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." The best man, or koumbaro then exchanges the rings three times, taking the brides ring and placing it on grooms finger and vice-versa. The wedding service begins immediately following the Betrothal Service. The bride and groom are handed candles which they hold throughout the service. The candles symbolize the spiritual willingness of the couple to receive Christ, who will bless them through this sacrament. The office of the crownin, is the climax of the wedding service. The crowns of the wedding service. The crowns are signs of the glory and honor with which God crowns them during the sacrament. The groom and the bride are crowned as the king and queen of their own little kingdom, the home, which they will rule with wisdom, justice, and integrity. When the crowning takes place, the celebrant takes the crowns and places them on the heads of the bride and groom saying, "O Lord, our God, crown them with glory and honor." The koumbaro (best man), then exchanges the crowns three times , and from this point on, neither the bride nor groom can speak. Vows aren’t exchanged because marriage is considered a union between two people in love, not a contractual agreement. *or so they say* (also after the crowning of the bride and groom they are more seen as the king and queen and in some areas of the country its considdered a faux-pas to say Bride or Groom instead of King & Queen … Last name) wine is given to the couple. This is the "common cup" of life, denoting the mutual sharing of joy and sorrow, the token of a life of harmony. (christ turning water into wine thing) ok something you might find strange but is normal actually is the ceremonial walk The celebrant then leads the couple in a circle around the table on which are placed the "Bible" and the Cross. The husband and wife are taking their first steps as a married couple, and the Church, in the person of the clergy, leads them in the way they must walk. The way is symbolized by the circle at the center of which are the Gospel and Cross of the Lord. This expresses the fact that the way of Christian living is a perfect orbit around the center of life. During this ceremonial walk around the table a hymn is sung to the Holy Martyrs (in my opinion it sounds whiny lol) reminding the newly married couple of the sacrificial love they are to have for each other in marriage, a love that seeks not its own but is willing to sacrifice its all for the one loved. (also seen as the women feeling for the bride as now she has to "submit" to her husband lol you know what I mean ) RECEPTION PART (again traditional Orthodox) After the ceremony, the group heads to the groom’s house where the flag is once again raised. The bride throws a piece of old iron to the roof to symbolize the strength of her new home. (this can be done before the ceremony) The wedding party and the congregation attend the reception. This event is very dramatic, with a dinner followed by lots of wine and dancing. For example at a cousin of mine’s wedding , the party started at five o’clock, and ended with breakfast the next morning *this is not abnormal*. The dancing begins with the Kumbada, and every member of the wedding party gets a turn to lead. There is a traditional money dance at the reception where people dance with either the bride or groom, pinning money to their clothes. One traditional dance forms with two circles around the bride. It is also tradition during this time to throw money at the musicians and break dishes. The dishes are thrown on the ground for good luck. Throughout the evening, everyone at the reception gets a turn to dance with the bride. Some common aspects occur at the Greek reception, such as the cutting of the cake and the throwing of rice. However, each Greek reception must have Bom Bom Yara, almond candies covered in white chocolate. They are wrapped up in a netting and given to all the guests as they leave. Tradition dictates that there must be an odd number of candies in each package (it cymbolizes that like the bride and groom you can not devide them). OTHER Greek Wedding things that you might not witness since you are a guest and not familiar with the traditions The making of the wedding flag or flamboro marks the beginning of the wedding week. A branch ending with five twigs is found first. Then an apple is tied to one branch and tufts of red wool are other four twigs. This is put up at the bride’s home until the wedding day. The wedding procession is begun at the groom’s house where the wedding flag is raised. Then the flag bearer leads the group proceeds to the bride’s home where the bride’s mother greets the groom. She greets him with a glass of wine, a ring-shaped biscuit and a boutonniere of herbs for his label. He pins the herbs to his lapel, kisses her hand and asks for her blessing. She gives her blessing by kissing him on both cheeks. She may also touch his neck with incense and give him embatikion, a gift to symbolize that his is now a part of the family. Wedding bands are traditionally worn on the right hand, not the left. Gifts.. check if they have a registry. pretty much you can give whatever you wish. Niki,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > My cousin is marrying a Greek woman in Greece and we are attending. > Does anyone have a suggestion for an appropriate gift? > I think you are just supposed to pin money to the bride’s dress.

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How about a few dinner plates for them to smash. Sorry.

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Hi My cousin is marrying a Greek woman in Greece and we are attending. Does anyone have a suggestion for an appropriate gift? Any other tips for us Americans? thank you!

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> Hi > My cousin is marrying a Greek woman in Greece and we are attending. > Does anyone have a suggestion for an appropriate gift?

I think you are just supposed to pin money to the bride’s dress.

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Non-cheesy wedding bands in Los Angeles?

admin — Fri, 01 Feb 2002 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi. My fiance and I are getting married in Los Angeles on May 26th, 2002 and we’re having trouble finding a wedding band that fits us. We’d like a band that can play Jewish music well for the ceremony and for dancing, but can also play Motown stuff really well. We’ve been disappointed with most of the bands we’ve heard so far. Can anybody *please* recommend any awesome bands in the Los Angeles area that might be what we’re looking for? Any suggestions would be a big help (we’re trying to do the planning from New York, and finding a band has been really hard for us). Thanks in advance for any help. -Adam

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We used Swinging Tuna Productions (call Tom Gire at 909-898-3601 and tell him Melissa sent you) and they were fabulous. I gave them a must play and do not play list and they learned a few and found CD’s for others (for during their break). We had a five piece band (four musicians and a singer) but they have other combinations. They’re pricing is really reasonable and they did a great job. I can’t recommend them enough!!! They also played a great combination of Jewish music, old fogey music and pop stuff so everyone was happy. — Melissa (03/18/01)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi. My fiance and I are getting married in Los Angeles on May 26th, > 2002 and we’re having trouble finding a wedding band that fits us. > We’d like a band that can play Jewish music well for the ceremony and > for dancing, but can also play Motown stuff really well. We’ve been > disappointed with most of the bands we’ve heard so far. > Can anybody *please* recommend any awesome bands in the Los Angeles > area that might be what we’re looking for? Any suggestions would be a > big help (we’re trying to do the planning from New York, and finding a > band has been really hard for us). > Thanks in advance for any help. > -Adam

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> Hi. My fiance and I are getting married in Los Angeles on May 26th, > 2002 and we’re having trouble finding a wedding band that fits us.

Use a DJ, and give said DJ explicit instructions. They *will* buy whatever CDs you want to hear – they expect to do so. But I must be honest when I tell you that my advice is doubtless colored by my experience of having been forced to use one of the worst bands I (& the bulk of my guests) have ever heard for my own wedding. Oh, and, mazel tov! & remember – the "lifting on the chair" bit is *only* for the wedding of the youngest child in either family. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We’d like a band that can play Jewish music well for the ceremony and > for dancing, but can also play Motown stuff really well. We’ve been > disappointed with most of the bands we’ve heard so far. > Can anybody *please* recommend any awesome bands in the Los Angeles > area that might be what we’re looking for? Any suggestions would be a > big help (we’re trying to do the planning from New York, and finding a > band has been really hard for us). > Thanks in advance for any help. > -Adam

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The tradition (I think) Susan is referring to is the Chair thing for THE PARENTS. It’s called Mizinke. Seated on chairs in the center of the dance floor, the parents are presented with bouquets and circled by the assembled in a dance that celebrates the completion of their parental responsibility. A variation of this theme is the Krenzl, or crowning of the mother who has just seen her last wed.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Oh, and, mazel tov! & remember – the "lifting on the > > chair" bit is *only* for the wedding of the youngest > > child in either family. > > Susan > Susan, I have seen it at just about every Jewish wedding I have been to > **AND** in just about every bar mitzvah celebration party as well. Why not > just call it a "new tradition"? > Because the point of the act is to say "Here is my last child, > who I have married off – i.e., taken care of – according to > my obligations – I have fulfilled all my obligations!" > Susn > Shelly

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You do have a Heart of Gold, I sorta wondered. Now I know with Kabbalistic Certainty. Shalom to the Wedding pair May they be basherit. Michael. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Oh, and, mazel tov! & remember – the "lifting on the > > chair" bit is *only* for the wedding of the youngest > > child in either family. > > Susan > Susan, I have seen it at just about every Jewish wedding I have been to > **AND** in just about every bar mitzvah celebration party as well. Why not > just call it a "new tradition"? > Because the point of the act is to say "Here is my last child, > who I have married off – i.e., taken care of – according to > my obligations – I have fulfilled all my obligations!" > Susn > Shelly

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> But I must be honest when I tell you that my advice > is doubtless colored by my experience of having been > forced to use one of the worst bands I (& the bulk of

It’s your karma, Susan, you attract the "worst" of everything. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my guests) have ever heard for my own wedding. > Susan

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Susan, I have seen it at just about every Jewish wedding I have been to **AND** in just about every bar mitzvah celebration party as well. Why not just call it a "new tradition"? Shelly

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> > Oh, and, mazel tov! & remember – the "lifting on the > chair" bit is *only* for the wedding of the youngest > child in either family. > Susan > Susan, I have seen it at just about every Jewish wedding I have been to > **AND** in just about every bar mitzvah celebration party as well. Why not > just call it a "new tradition"?

Because the point of the act is to say "Here is my last child, who I have married off – i.e., taken care of – according to my obligations – I have fulfilled all my obligations!" Susn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Shelly

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I’ve seen the chair lifting at every Jewish wedding I’ve been to for at least 20 years. There is a specific ceremony for the marrying off of the youngest, but it’s different, I’ve always heard the intrepretation of the chair lifting as descending from the Orthodox weddings where men and women danced separately divided by a partition. The lifted chairs allowed the bride and groom to see each other and to ‘dance’ with the napkin between them. Rachel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi. My fiance and I are getting married in Los Angeles on May 26th, > 2002 and we’re having trouble finding a wedding band that fits us. > Use a DJ, and give said DJ explicit instructions. > They *will* buy whatever CDs you want to hear – > they expect to do so. > But I must be honest when I tell you that my advice > is doubtless colored by my experience of having been > forced to use one of the worst bands I (& the bulk of > my guests) have ever heard for my own wedding. > Oh, and, mazel tov! & remember – the "lifting on the > chair" bit is *only* for the wedding of the youngest > child in either family. > Susan > We’d like a band that can play Jewish music well for the ceremony and > for dancing, but can also play Motown stuff really well. We’ve been > disappointed with most of the bands we’ve heard so far. > Can anybody *please* recommend any awesome bands in the Los Angeles > area that might be what we’re looking for? Any suggestions would be a > big help (we’re trying to do the planning from New York, and finding a > band has been really hard for us). > Thanks in advance for any help. > -Adam

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wedding/love quotes for engraving

admin — Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:00:00 +0000

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Many Jewish brides use, “I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine.” I think it’s from The Book of David, but I’m not sure. It’s not explicitly Jewish, so it might work for you if you’re not Jewish too. — Melissa 3/18/01

Hello all, first time poster, long time lurker My fiance and I are going to order our wedding bands soon. We’re going to have plain platinum bands, nothing too fancy on the outside. On the inside, we’d like to have a quote or verse engraved. It’s a small area to work with, so I’m thinking about putting half of the quote inside his band, and the other half in mine. So my questions are: Has anyone done this or something similar? And does anyone have a suggestion of a short but pretty quote? I appreciate all your help! JH soon-to-be S

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*Song of Solomon, Chapter 2, verse 16 and repeated in Chapter 6, verse 3: “My lover is mine and I am his; he browses among the lilies.” Then there’s Chapter 7, verse 10: “I belong to my lover, and his desire is for me.” Hope this helps, Noe *NIV translation, the King James is more poetic.

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Some poems and sayings from a “Bridal Souvenir” dated 1876. Maybe these will give you some ideas at least if they are too dated for you. “Our hearts and hands we join” “But for a being without end, this vow of love we take” “Like fire and powder, kissed and flashed to air. Thy soul and mine, by mutual courtship won, Meet like two mingling flames and make but one.” “When two that are linked in one heavenly tie, With heart never changing and brow never cold, Love on through all ills, and love on till we die.” “But Love is indestructible. Its holy flame for ever burneth, From heaven it came, to heaven it returneth” “So soft our moments move, That angels look with ardent gaze, Well pleased to see our happy days, And bid us live and love.” “Our hearts are so entwined That, like the ivy round the tree, Bound up in closest amity, tis death to be disjoined.”– “Our meeting hearts Consented soon, and marriage made us one.” Aimee

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Hi Jen, My husband and I did the same thing years ago and have loved it ever since. On the out side the band says “Always and forever” and inside it says “In God’s Care” Actually you could fit the whole saying on the outside and the date and your initials on the inside.. Best wishes.. Hello all, first time poster, long time lurker My fiance and I are going to order our wedding bands soon. We’re going to have plain platinum bands, nothing too fancy on the outside. On the inside, we’d like to have a quote or verse engraved. It’s a small area to work with, so I’m thinking about putting half of the quote inside his band, and the other half in mine. So my questions are: Has anyone done this or something similar? And does anyone have a suggestion of a short but pretty quote? I appreciate all your help! JH soon-to-be S

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It’s from the Song of Songs, other wise called Song of Solomon. It is in the Hebrew Scripture or the Old Testament if you are using a Christian Bible. love and xxxises — shullie

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These are great suggestions eveyone! Thank you and keep them coming! Nothing is too dated – I think the older ones are quite romantic. Bible verses are great too. If I find some myself I’ll post them here in case anyone else is looking for ideas. Thanks so much

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http://www.cforc.com/KjvTopic.cgi?Love — Aimee http://pweb.jps.net/~aimeesplace

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Sorry, I clicked send before I finished my text. You may find some good ones in that link, but there’s lots of just normal bible verses. You’d have to read through it all. — Aimee http://pweb.jps.net/~aimeesplace

http://www.cforc.com/KjvTopic.cgi?Love — Aimee http://pweb.jps.net/~aimeesplace Hello all, first time poster, long time lurker My fiance and I are going to order our wedding bands soon. We’re going to have plain platinum bands, nothing too fancy on the outside. On the inside, we’d like to have a quote or verse engraved. It’s a small area to work with, so I’m thinking about putting half of the quote inside his band, and the other half in mine. So my questions are: Has anyone done this or something similar? And does anyone have a suggestion of a short but pretty quote? I appreciate all your help! JH soon-to-be S

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Those bible verses are mostly about *love* in general… The song of solomon had the best ones related to marriage. Here’s a few other quotes I found from this link http://www.aphids.com/cgi-bin/quotes.pl?act=ShowSubjects: These are great! Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop. — Anonymous We always believe our first love is our last, and our last love our first. — Anonymous If ever two were one, then surely we. If ever man were loved by wife, then thee. — Anne Bradstreet Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction. — Antoine de Saint-Exup

four finger technique references

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>Bill Dickens does it too. He’s scary too. >Chance

Yeah….I have one of his videos….he’s a f*&^cking animal! Thats what I like about some of these videos…If for one second I think I know anything, I pop in a video and get humbled very quickly! Michael Manring just makes me want to quit:-) Aloha, Jerry

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& I always figured he had 12 fingers… he’s quite frightening indeed! m

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bill Dickens does it too. He’s scary too. > Chance > Gary Willis does to great effect..he’s a monster! > Aloha, > Jerry

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Gary Willis does to great effect..he’s a monster! Aloha, Jerry

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thanks a bunch! i’ll check them out. — tangled in bass strings…. rain de leon http://elektrikrain.com not a valid email address post replies to group.

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Here is a link off harmony-central, it’s about using 5 fingers though … what’s one more finger once you above … one http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Articles/Hanging_Ten/ The article goes into quite a bit of detail on how to develop the technique, and how to develop the skill. Hope it helps Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hi everyone out there, > i’ve just come across a bit of a discussion on right hand technique on the > carvin.com bbs forums, and the topic of 4 finger technique was mentioned. i > did a search for it on the net, and didn’t come up with a lot. i am looking > for pictures of the right hand while playing this way, angles, thumb > positions, etc. i was wondering if anyone else out there could add some > input on this topic. if anyone knew any good reference web sites out there. > thanks in advance. > — > play bass, live forever….. > -rdl > icq: 37319043 > http://elektrikrain.com > —

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okie, i don’t know why this thing isn’t posting my responses, but anyway.. i hope this post goes through. thanks to everyone who posted a response. i really do appreciate it. ":)) — tangled in bass strings…. rain de leon http://elektrikrain.com not a valid email address post replies to group.

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Bill Dickens does it too. He’s scary too. Chance

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Gary Willis does to great effect..he’s a monster! Aloha, > Jerry

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Stanley Clarke, Abraham Laboriel, and the bassist for Ivo Papasov & His Bulgarian Wedding Band all use four finger technique. Many more use three finger technique. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hi everyone out there, > i’ve just come across a bit of a discussion on right hand technique on the > carvin.com bbs forums, and the topic of 4 finger technique was mentioned. i > did a search for it on the net, and didn’t come up with a lot. i am looking > for pictures of the right hand while playing this way, angles, thumb > positions, etc. i was wondering if anyone else out there could add some > input on this topic. if anyone knew any good reference web sites out there. > thanks in advance. > — > play bass, live forever….. > -rdl > icq: 37319043 > http://elektrikrain.com > —

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hi everyone out there, i’ve just come across a bit of a discussion on right hand technique on the carvin.com bbs forums, and the topic of 4 finger technique was mentioned. i did a search for it on the net, and didn’t come up with a lot. i am looking for pictures of the right hand while playing this way, angles, thumb positions, etc. i was wondering if anyone else out there could add some input on this topic. if anyone knew any good reference web sites out there. thanks in advance. — play bass, live forever….. -rdl icq: 37319043 http://elektrikrain.com —