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> I’ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it’s the shitty transpoter > series. > Never had a problem, and believe me, I’m playing loud. Except for the POP > when turnng off. > —

If I’m not mistaken, the trasporter series is a step up from the VX.

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I’ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it’s the shitty transpoter series. Never had a problem, and believe me, I’m playing loud. Except for the POP when turnng off. — Henry! "Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you’re playing. I had this black guitar and I was going, ‘Gem, I can’t seem to dress with this guitar’." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you > need > > to > > > turn down. > > > Good luck! > > > Corey > > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta > go. > I > > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs > loaded > > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget > it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger > My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for > about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to > remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only > worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed > a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were > just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated > for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a > tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you > don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an > svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a > kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable > pops from my speakers.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you > need > > to > > > turn down. > > > Good luck! > > > Corey > > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta > go. > I > > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs > loaded > > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget > it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger > My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for > about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to > remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only > worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed > a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were > just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated > for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a > tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you > don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an > svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a > kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable > pops from my speakers.

Whenever I see a really thin, compact power amp for bass, I am suspicious of its ability to handle the thermal loads that are encountered with normal use. I wonder if the sensor that shuts it down was defective? Or if it was "out of adjustment" if there was one. I doubt the latter. Most of those are fixed at a certain temperature. Still, the sensors have been known to be defective from time to time. My VX410 cost me $300. I forget if I paid shipping or not. Probably not. I was going to sell it since I have since obtained some beefier enclosures that I know will not burp or fart during normal high volume use. Then I turn around and order an Agile V2 six string bass from Rondo the other day when the price dipped to $199 and some change. I’ve been wanting an active six string, but I don’t think I’ll be able to justify an expensive one. Hence the Agile. Well, now I just might need that Hartke to handle the upper end of the register. It’s not eating anything and it won’t be worth any less five years from now, so I guess I’ll hold on to it. The VX410 has a power rating of 400 watts RMS. I suppose they rate the crossover and tweeter sufficiently to absorb the rest of the power. I suppose… I like Ampeg equipment myself. Ed Cregger

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need > to > > turn down. > > Good luck! > > Corey > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta go. > I > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The > 115 > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs loaded > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you > play > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger

My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly – no sound what so ever for about 2 or 3 minutes. I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. I had to remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it, but this only worked when the room temp was below 80f. Even with the fan on it, it failed a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. The speakers were just garbage in general – I found that individually the 10s were only rated for 75 watts each. The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. All of them had a tendancy to fart easily. Now granted my band plays pretty loud – if you don’t need the volume they are probably fine. I replace the 3500 with an svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a kappa 15lf. Never had another problem with overheating – or undesirable pops from my speakers.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need > to > turn down. > Good luck! > Corey > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta go. I > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. The 115 > was toast after 2 months. I dumped them all and built my own cabs loaded > with with 4 eminince delta 10’s and a Kapp 15lf. Harke is fine if you play > in a wedding band, but if your trying to put food on the table forget it.

How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke equipment? What kind of failures? TIA Ed Cregger

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Aguilar uses custom Eminence – I ordered a replacement from the Aguilar web site once, and it had an eminence custom order sheet in the box when I received it – obviously an oversight. Aguilar sells its own replacement speakers via its web site, and they are reasonably priced and special tuned for your cabinet. I’d recommend them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. > Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct > from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it > doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, > other than massive low end response.

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I’d go here http://www.webervst.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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>John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask.

Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, other than massive low end response.

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> Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass.

John, I know that Epifani uses Eminence. They say they’re custom-built, but no matter how "custom" they are, they won’t vary drastically from the stock designs. Don’t know about Aguilar.

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>>The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker. > Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a > basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived.

I’ve done it! And it wasn’t off the back of a truck either! So I know it CAN happen! All it takes is enough misalignment until the voice coil starts to rub…then doom soon follows. Benj — Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!

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I just found out that Aguilar uses eminence too. >John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. > Actually, I’d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using, > because those cabinets kick ass. I’d try to get the OEM driver direct > from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch, but it > doesn’t have much midrange, I really can’t say how it would sound, > other than massive low end response.

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John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. Just figured that i would ask. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of >speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every >speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I >can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard >mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to >replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. >Vinny > For those Hartke boxes, I’d strongly suggest the Eminence > Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10" driver is not super > efficient, but will perform with a broad frequency response in that > box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab, > since it has a fairly low resonant frequency, and a low Vas factor, > meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab. > Fane and RCF also make premium drivers, and Carvin also sells > OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence). > Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency), a low Vas (how well it > produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or > higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s > of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use.

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I’m surprised no one has asked this question: How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need to turn down. Good luck! Corey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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>I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of >speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every >speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I >can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard >mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to >replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. >Vinny

For those Hartke boxes, I’d strongly suggest the Eminence Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10" driver is not super efficient, but will perform with a broad frequency response in that box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab, since it has a fairly low resonant frequency, and a low Vas factor, meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab. Fane and RCF also make premium drivers, and Carvin also sells OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence). Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency), a low Vas (how well it produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use.

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Yup. I’m impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me in that area. — Henry! "Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you’re playing. I had this black guitar and I was going, ‘Gem, I can’t seem to dress with this guitar’." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m surprised no one has asked this question: > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder, or you need to > turn down. > Good luck! > Corey > I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. > Vinny

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I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks. Vinny

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I’m a former guitar player and those brands make pretty good guitar amp speakers, but I’m not sure about bass cab….I know that Bag End uses some pretty swift sounding speakers in their $$$$$$ cabinets, but

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> I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability, sound and price. I need to replace every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can’t find the receipt and Hartke won’t do anything for me. I’ve heard > mention of Eminence, Celestion, and Peavey among others. I’m looking to > replace a 15" and 4- 10"s. Thanks.

Yeah, Eminence and Celestion make some good stuff ($$$), Peavey makes some good buys as well if you want to save some cash. Also consider the speakers in the Carvin catalog. Decent prices. I’d say get a cast frame speaker for the 15" if possible (About $110) from Carvin. The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much trashes the speaker. The 10" ones are lighter and won’t be quite as prone to damage, but if you can afford it, I’d get the cast frames for those as well. OF course, Peavey or Carvin speakers won’t have the tone of the big bux cabs but there is a REASON they cost big bux! Just price some of those drivers. And let me say one more thing about drivers. I have a Fender BXR 200. It came with the Fender 15" Speaker. I also happened to have a similar speaker which is a "hollywood" brand. It’s a West Coast thing designed for sound sytems and VERY well made with HUGE magnet. So I started swapping speakers just for fun. What I found was that the Fender speaker had a lot of distortion in it while the other speaker had a very pure "hi fi" kind of tone. Now you might think that more pure speaker would always sound better. But that was NOT the case! What I found was that the tone you got with a certain speaker very much depended upon the bass you put through it! For example my Ken Smith just came to life on Fender driver, but sounded thin and weak with the "hi fi" driver. Just the opposite was true for my Modulus. The distortion of the Fender Speaker gave it a really muddy tone, while the sound system driver, made it ring like a bell! I guess the point I’m making here is that choosing a brand of speaker for bass cabs has a great deal to do with tone and ALSO depends on the bass you intend to play through that cab. I guess this is why cab building is still an "art". Benj — Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off!

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>The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker.

Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived. K

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I’ve used RCF 15’s in my Traynor box for 10 years with ZERO problems. S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker. > Funny, I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a > basket bending due to a drop, at least not a drop the cabnet survived. > K

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OT: High Anxiety….

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Hi Kita! > Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot, at random times, > without signing in.. That’s what I used to do, just pop in and keep them > always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent > visitors get much better care.

Yup…..I like to leave them with no idea when I will be *flying* in. Sometimes tho I feel I should arrive with my jaw wired shut! > My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went, it was > a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the > staff on open house days, or inspection weeks. The rest of the year, > they were always understaffed. > My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I’m > sure) some temp (never recovered it). (don’t bring any valuable > jewelry or stuff)

That sucks! I know what you mean about the valubles……I told them I was leaving my most valuable posession with them….my mom. > But there are a lot of angels there, too. G-d bless them, it’s a hard job.. > Make friends with the nursing aides, they know Everything..

Yeah, it is a dam hard job….not just anyone can do it….not and do it well that is. I like to bring little appreciation gifts for some of the folks working there….I figger it couldn’t hurt…..plus I really do appreciate what they do. > > Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped!

Thanks Kita! You got that right…..I just brought in my laundry off the line….how easy it is with 2 footsies. I had spent weeks figgering out how I could manage to hang my own laundry from the wheelchair….it was quite an ordeal…but I did it. Hell it’s not like I was busy doing anything else <smirk> but I hope to NEVER have that experience again!! you’re about to be an old fart ain’t cha!! Heehee you go girl! Ripley / Pinky — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Thanks for the floating wishes!! :-) I’d do just about anything to make things right for my sweet little mom……except smoke that is. I’ll be glad when the initial move is done. At least I won’t have to do her hair again…..last time I washed it & cut it…….I dang near flipped her in the sink…..the stoopid chair would not co-operate, and in the process I got her soaked and lots of hair down her back!! She took it well…..I just laughed allot and honked her nose!! She’s grrreat! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ripley? > HELLO, RIPLEY!? > COME IN RIPLEY! > YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!! > HELLO? > She seems…kind of upset about something. > If only she could come out of her shell, just a little bit, and express > herself… > Sigh… > All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful, and > my hat’s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you’re going thru, > and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Oh, Ripley, I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for you! I can’t imagine what you’ve been going through nor how it is for you now. I only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care of her as long as necessary, and then certainly would want the best care for her when she was beyond my help. My grandmother is failing fast now, and we’re all grieving over how to handle that. My thoughts and feelings are with you, Ripley. Try to hang on and know that you have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible. *Huge Hugs* — BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! %% (—-) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ ~f3as3~ Quit since 11/01/2001 http://binniebee.com http://www.cyberdigs.com

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Hi Sally…. > ((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) Gawd, it sounds like you’re going > thru hell right now! I’m not going to stick up for the place she’s at > except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she’s > taking (coumadin, etc)…but I’d be totally pissed off if this were MY > mother, too. I would be fuming and want a few answers myself.

Ya, she is on a blood thinner….could be that…..it’s a hard thing to see, for sure. > As for the incontinence pads, if you’re getting the generic brands, they > usually are ‘crap’ but the only way you can find out is to try different > kinds. Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn’t the best choice is > all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???)

No, I pay for em……I am always suspicious when they want the ones that will *hold NH….medicaid will pay for the diapers and her over the counter meds too!! :-) > I guess I’m trying to look at the positive side, but like I said, if this were MY > mother, I’d be more than just a little upset. That alzheimers facility > that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I > quit it after just a few months!). They changed the residents every TWO > hours. It didn’t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap > in their pants….if it wasn’t their time to be changed, I saw more than > one caregiver who looked the other way. Pissed me off to think that > they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. I say ‘what > goes around, comes around’….

I try to look at the positive side too. Welp….if it’s good for the goose….it’s good for the gander…..I think that anyone who can do that should be forced to sit in their own for an hour or two or four!! Bastards!! oops…… :-( > Restraints being used when not needed?? They shouldn’t use them at all > without a doctors order. At least that’s a state LAW here in Oregon. > made…..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! I don’t want to upset you any

more than you are already, Rip….but > sounds to me like it’s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that > place.

No, no….that is stuff going on in the NH that is right here in town. The one my aunts think grrrrrr….gggrrrrrrrrrrr somebody stop me!! Don’t ever judge a book by it’s cover…..but ya gotta keep in > mind that we’re not all bad eggs! Cameras in every room of facility > should be a law but it’s an expense that most facilities won’t deal with > unless something drastic happens. (We’ve finally got more security > cameras up in the place that I work….NOT because of abuse or neglect > tho. Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the > elderly folks.) If I’m ever able to open the adult foster home that I > would LOVE to do, I wouldn’t hesitate for a minute when it comes to > cameras in the place.

You know there’s a school that’s been closed here that would be perfect. They just decided to build a new one……sometimes, when I ride by the buildings I picture a home like > It’s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right > now. I would hate to be in your shoes, lady. One of my residents is > finally moving into an adult foster home this week. Her family wanted > to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are > other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and > she’s still mentally ‘with it’. I know that if they put her into a NH,

living facilities are taking in those that really need NH care…….and then it’s tough noggies for the lo. money always talks. > Take good care, Ripley! Get the move over with….then sit back for a > bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed…what good would > that do your Mom?

Thanks Sally…..no smoking….lots of swearing and pacing and willing the phone to ring and nervous eating and walks, but no to smoking dammit!! I finally got sick of waiting today and called….there is a paperwork holdup…..someone didn’t do the evaluation or didn’t put the paper thru……they can’t seem to figger out which! OK……I’ll just wait…..everything else is done……they just read the PPD test Friday…negative…….so once they pull their fingers out of their butts it’ll be a go…..till then I will eat evrything that can’t run away. :-) just call me fatlizzy….. burp…..pfffttt > BIG hugs to both of ya! > Sally (hoping you’re not pissed off about this post)

Hell no!! don’t want to try and piss in the pot blindfolded!! I’ve got a bid on a Halloween costume….. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2953053468&categor… mom is and fool with all the old folks and try to bite their necks!! What ever happened to the transylvania twist!!!!! LOL Ripley / off to sharpen fangs…. — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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> I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you

Hey Maddie……if it goes well for mom, then I’m all set!! Thanks… Ripley > —– > Maddie, 5 months

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> >roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Hey Ripley. > Just thinkin’ o’ ya > steveb

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Thanks Dawn……I’m an only child….so she’s stuck with me! I have my moments! Ripley

> Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. I hope > the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly. > Dawn > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Hi BB…..

> Oh, Ripley, I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for you! I can’t > imagine what you’ve been going through nor how it is for you now. I > only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care > of her as long as necessary, and then certainly would want the best care > for her when she was beyond my help. My grandmother is failing fast > now, and we’re all grieving over how to handle that.

> My thoughts and feelings are with you, Ripley. Try to hang on and know > that you have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that > care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible.

Thanks BB… :-) I’d like to get it over with….but there’s been a holdup with the all important paperwork…..not at my end.<smirk>….I’ve done mine….so far as they will let me. One day at a time…….well wishes coming back atcha with your gm. Ripley / anxious….but holdin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> *Huge Hugs* > — > BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! > %% > (—-) > ( >__< ) > ^^ ~~ ^^ > ~f3as3~ > Quit since 11/01/2001 > http://binniebee.com > http://www.cyberdigs.com

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>roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!!

Hey Ripley. Just thinkin’ o’ ya steveb

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((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) Gawd, it sounds like you’re going thru hell right now! I’m not going to stick up for the place she’s at except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she’s taking (coumadin, etc)…but I’d be totally pissed off if this were MY mother, too. I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. As for the incontinence pads, if you’re getting the generic brands, they usually are ‘crap’ but the only way you can find out is to try different kinds. Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn’t the best choice is all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) I guess I’m trying to look at the positive side, but like I said, if this were MY mother, I’d be more than just a little upset. That alzheimers facility that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I quit it after just a few months!). They changed the residents every TWO hours. It didn’t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap in their pants….if it wasn’t their time to be changed, I saw more than one caregiver who looked the other way. Pissed me off to think that they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. I say ‘what goes around, comes around’…. Restraints being used when not needed?? They shouldn’t use them at all without a doctors order. At least that’s a state LAW here in Oregon. made…..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! I don’t want to upset you any more than you are already, Rip….but sounds to me like it’s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that place. Don’t ever judge a book by it’s cover…..but ya gotta keep in mind that we’re not all bad eggs! Cameras in every room of facility should be a law but it’s an expense that most facilities won’t deal with unless something drastic happens. (We’ve finally got more security cameras up in the place that I work….NOT because of abuse or neglect tho. Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the elderly folks.) If I’m ever able to open the adult foster home that I would LOVE to do, I wouldn’t hesitate for a minute when it comes to cameras in the place. It’s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right now. I would hate to be in your shoes, lady. One of my residents is finally moving into an adult foster home this week. Her family wanted to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and she’s still mentally ‘with it’. I know that if they put her into a NH, Take good care, Ripley! Get the move over with….then sit back for a bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed…what good would that do your Mom? BIG hugs to both of ya! Sally (hoping you’re not pissed off about this post) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. I hope the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly. Dawn — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Ripley: >Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my >Alzheimers mom has an >opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here >comes the >rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how >she will >react…..gawd!

… I hope it all goes really well for your mom…and you —– Maddie, 5 months

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"Ripley" wrote OK…why the hell > doesn’t SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! …..Fuck em!! >… Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!!….OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh……I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move ….dammit!….I hope I don’t > show my ass too much ….like a fly on

Ripley? HELLO, RIPLEY!? COME IN RIPLEY! YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!! HELLO? She seems…kind of upset about something. If only she could come out of her shell, just a little bit, and express herself… Sigh… All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful, and my hat’s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you’re going thru, and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it.

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Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot, at random times, without signing in.. That’s what I used to do, just pop in and keep them always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent visitors get much better care. My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went, it was a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the staff on open house days, or inspection weeks. The rest of the year, they were always understaffed. My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I’m sure) some temp (never recovered it). (don’t bring any valuable jewelry or stuff) But there are a lot of angels there, too. G-d bless them, it’s a hard job.. Make friends with the nursing aides, they know Everything.. Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an > opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the > rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will > react…..gawd! > For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and > stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… > OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living > facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. > It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal > for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t > like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had > realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but > I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a > hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They > want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the > bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want > you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load > how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time > came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day > and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts > for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN > GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like > abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged > every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE > SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! > sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to > be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t > Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break > it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching > every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! > And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t > show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip > over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( > OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on > a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but > it’ll do!!!! :-) > roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! > Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! > — > Spanking clean > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Cripes….I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. Here comes the rollercoaster of emotions……excitement, dread, happy, sad, nervous at how she will react…..gawd! For those that don’t know me….I’m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and stepped out the door one fine day…..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months… OUCH!! Couldn’t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living facility….which really doesn’t provide quite the care she needs in her condition. It’s time…..I know that….but….she has gotten used to where she is…..a very big deal for Alzheimers ppl. But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don’t like…..new administrator……some of the *good* ppl left. Last time I was there I had realize how effing lucky they were I didn’t put a few on them!! I know she bruises easy…but I didn’t like the location/looks of these……and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! My nostrils are still flaring!! They want the kind that she couldn’t possibly pull down herself and ….oh I dunno….go to the bathroom on her own……nooooo, they want the ones that will *hold more*…..huh…….I want you effing ppl to change her dammit….not let her walk around with a pants load how she could see HER point…..I turned and said I would remember that….when her time came……and if it’s sooooo effing OK…then why the hell doesn’t SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! Needless to say the ride home was quiet. Fuck em!! They think I’m nuts for picking a NG that’s 40 miles away when there’s one right here! Oh yeah….OK……YOU CAN GO THERE!! They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like abuse, neglect, using restraints when not necessary, meds foul-ups…….and they get gigged every single inspection…..why don’t they shut em down for that stuff!!! OK…..I’LL BE SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!! sigh…..the new place….the NH is beautiful….clean, purdy….all the *inmates* appeared to be well kept, if you know what I mean, and their inspections have been perfect!! Why can’t Sally move here!! Hi Sally!! Love ya!……But it’s the ppl working there that make or break it…..the ones I met seemed like good ppl…..I want effing cameras in every room watching every move the caregivers make!!! dammit! And so……it’s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? When we make the move…..I hope I don’t show my ass too much right off. I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip over unexpected every other day and see mom. :-( OK….I’ll shut up now…..sorry….I needed to get that out. I’m so uptight….like a fly on a turd!! I’ll go for a walk now….heehee….at least I CAN walk…not like I used to but it’ll do!!!! :-) roaring screaming assholes……oops……not done yet am I!! Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!! — Spanking clean Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).