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The Bugger Issue….(I think there's an issue)

Question:

>Some of you seem offended by the term bugger.

Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." Dang. Mike

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Gosh, My post was meant to be entertaining not condescending! My humble apologies if that has occurred. I gotta say that I feel well and truly thwacked across the face. Thank goodness people are diverse, and can have opposing viewpoints. I choose to see lots of different things in the world, and not all of them are good…. but I won’t killfile all the things that I don’t agree with, because I don’t want to have a narrow view of the world. I might be wrong with a lot of the things that I believe, but they are my beliefs. I don’t need a personal attack like this. Ann

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear Ann: > I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your > illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my > closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has > been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit > difficult to glean from my postings. > Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. > I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I > did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in > the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is > why I replied at all. > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity. > The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. > This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your > condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long > annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do > not need your brand of aggravation. > Snowtree >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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>Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. > Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." > Dang. > Mike

Too scared to LOL, Mikey! Ann

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Not being at all offended by the term "bugger," and never in my 42 years of life in the USA, (hanging out in small towns and big cities with folks from ALL walks of life), never once having heard anyone use the word "buggery," I had to go look it up. I have a big fat dictionary… Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd Ed., Unabridged. It weighs in at about 20 lbs. There are seven definitions for bugger, most of which are "Chiefly British slang." True, "sodomite" is in there, referred to as "Often Vulgar." But, there is also 4 b., an annoying or troublesome thing, situation, etc., which, indeed, could define this bummer (oops, did I just refer to someone’s ass??) of recovery from a horrible addiciton for me. While I was growing up, my father never wore his wedding ring. His response to those who might consider such behavior inappropriate, "I know I’m married." I like to think that I’m also strong in my own perceptions of myself. Also, check out the definition for sodomy. More of us are buggers than you might think! If it is because of the biblical ramifications that it offends, then I apologize to anyone who is offended, but I do ask that, for literary reasons, we don’t narrow the definition. Still all for being a June Bugger, whatever it might mean to anyone else. I don’t give a nose hair what we’re called. The idea is that we’re here to support each other, simply by being part of a group. Strength in numbers, I say. If snowtree wants to be on her own, that is entirely up to her. I may regret that I’ve jumped in on this thread, but there’s no one here but the laundry to rant to! MaryO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Dear Ann: > I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your > illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my > closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has > been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit > difficult to glean from my postings. > Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. > I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I > did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in > the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is > why I replied at all. > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity. > The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. > This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your > condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long > annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do > not need your brand of aggravation. > Snowtree >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . .

phew, thank god for that bobf 3m

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>Let’s get our views out, let’s talk about it, otherwise we just keep holding it in until >there’s an explosion,,,,

you were saying… Bobf 3m

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The only *curse* words i ever hear my Mum say are…. sod and bugger…whats good enough for my Mum to say, is good enough for me ;o) There are loads of double meaning names ..you cant please everyone < Can you Sassy ? > )) things even out after a time anyway…. lets all get back to the the two words that stands for what we are all  here for …. *Quitting Smoking* Miss Maggie. Seen all this B4

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the >group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we >really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a >special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even >have a special room so as to not offend anyone. >Diane M. >Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. >Up to 100 minutes free! >http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >USAer, >Sass

wait a minute … and what, may i ask, is wrong with being a slut??? iwisse <thinks definitions are all figments of the beholder>

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oh dear … i must apologise profusely … i seem not to have qualified my last post concerning slut-dom with the appropriate smileys.  please add two or three smileys to my last post.  :-) no offense taken nor intended anywhere, folks!  truly!  {{{{{{{ as3 }}}}}}} iwisse <crawling back into her corner again with her definitions>  <g> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the >group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we >really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a >special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even >have a special room so as to not offend anyone. >Diane M. >Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. >Up to 100 minutes free! >http://www.keen.com

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> you did not mention the television add where the dog says "bugger" because > it misses the back of the ute (truck for you sepos

LOL…that is a funny ad..IMO anyway!

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >USAer, >Sass > wait a minute … and what, may i ask, is wrong with being a slut??? > iwisse > <thinks definitions are all figments of the beholder>

Aha!  Someone is finally starting to get the point . . . :^) Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere 7M+

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?? What better way to get rid of tension other than sex?  <g> I think the reason every one is so tense is from the prolongued tiptoeing that’s been going on around here.  Let’s get our views out, let’s talk about it, otherwise we just keep holding it in until there’s an explosion.  I think my whole personality is my own disclaimer that I may be offensive at times.  I’ve heard the sound of one hand plonking me.  So be it.  Liven it up folks, you only live once! Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere Seven months, three weeks, 11 minutes and 49 seconds. 3495 cigarettes not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the > group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we > really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a > special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even > have a special room so as to not offend anyone. > Diane M. > Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. > Up to 100 minutes free! > http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Think faster, faster, FASTER, oooooh . . . ahhhhhhhhh . . . <g> Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere Seven months, three weeks, 12 minutes and 26 seconds. 3495 cigarettes not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes.

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>>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->wombat >OF

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass >is a > >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while… >Think faster, faster, FASTER, oooooh . . . ahhhhhhhhh . . . <g>

Oh my…..I think I’ll leave you two alone for a while…. <VBG> Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy She-Spock, >Boldly Going Nowhere >Seven months, three weeks, 12 minutes and 26 seconds. 3495 cigarettes >not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 >minutes.

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> >Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Not for too long now wombat – <g> Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> wombat > OF

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Really, really nice thread… All I know is it doesn’t feel right to want, want, want, to do something… ANYTHING!… To make these cravings go away. Can I somehow maintain one single drop of dignity, and have my anxiety assuaged? I don’t want to be a slut. Really. I swear… (BG) James Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even have a special room so as to not offend anyone. Diane M. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . .

Hmmm… let me think about that for a while… wombat OF

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Wait. I mean… I just want to feel better. James. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the least offensive names that you could call someone. Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. ‘Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and means to mess about or fiddle around. ‘Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in the horse ran like buggery. ‘Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an alternative to ‘piss off’. ‘Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be here methinks) And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my life by smoking! So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in mine anyway) so there is no need to be offended. I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I want to be a June Mooner either! I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June Buggies….I can live with that…can you? Ann

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Dear Ann: I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit difficult to glean from my postings. Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is why I replied at all. Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, nor shall i ever take that opportunity. The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do not need your brand of aggravation. Snowtree – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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> Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an

American. <snip> > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity.

Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a slut?  I don’t think so . . . USAer, Sass

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you did not mention the television add where the dog says "bugger" because it misses the back of the ute (truck for you sepos – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. > Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." > Dang. > Mike >Too scared to LOL, Mikey! >Ann

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<much snippage> : Also, check out the definition for sodomy. More of us are buggers than you might : think! MON DIEU!!!  From Webster’s New World Dictionary, Third College Edition:  "Any sexual intercourse held to be abnormal". I’m in biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig trouble. Could probably be arrested in more than a few US states, even. Probably will have to go several times around the beads (rosary) in order to achieve salvation.  Maybe even THAT won’t help……. Tammy "well I’ll be buggered" 10M+

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Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the least offensive names that you could call someone. Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. ‘Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and means to mess about or fiddle around. ‘Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in the horse ran like buggery. ‘Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an alternative to ‘piss off’. ‘Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be here methinks) And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my life by smoking! So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in mine anyway) so there is no need to be offended. I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I want to be a June Mooner either! I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June Buggies….I can live with that…can you? Ann

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Dear Ann: I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit difficult to glean from my postings. Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is why I replied at all. Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, nor shall i ever take that opportunity. The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do not need your brand of aggravation. Snowtree – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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>Some of you seem offended by the term bugger.

Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." Dang. Mike

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Gosh, My post was meant to be entertaining not condescending! My humble apologies if that has occurred. I gotta say that I feel well and truly thwacked across the face. Thank goodness people are diverse, and can have opposing viewpoints. I choose to see lots of different things in the world, and not all of them are good…. but I won’t killfile all the things that I don’t agree with, because I don’t want to have a narrow view of the world. I might be wrong with a lot of the things that I believe, but they are my beliefs. I don’t need a personal attack like this. Ann

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear Ann: > I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your > illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my > closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has > been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit > difficult to glean from my postings. > Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. > I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I > did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in > the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is > why I replied at all. > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity. > The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. > This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your > condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long > annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do > not need your brand of aggravation. > Snowtree >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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>Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. > Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." > Dang. > Mike

Too scared to LOL, Mikey! Ann

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Not being at all offended by the term "bugger," and never in my 42 years of life in the USA, (hanging out in small towns and big cities with folks from ALL walks of life), never once having heard anyone use the word "buggery," I had to go look it up. I have a big fat dictionary… Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd Ed., Unabridged. It weighs in at about 20 lbs. There are seven definitions for bugger, most of which are "Chiefly British slang." True, "sodomite" is in there, referred to as "Often Vulgar." But, there is also 4 b., an annoying or troublesome thing, situation, etc., which, indeed, could define this bummer (oops, did I just refer to someone’s ass??) of recovery from a horrible addiciton for me. While I was growing up, my father never wore his wedding ring. His response to those who might consider such behavior inappropriate, "I know I’m married." I like to think that I’m also strong in my own perceptions of myself. Also, check out the definition for sodomy. More of us are buggers than you might think! If it is because of the biblical ramifications that it offends, then I apologize to anyone who is offended, but I do ask that, for literary reasons, we don’t narrow the definition. Still all for being a June Bugger, whatever it might mean to anyone else. I don’t give a nose hair what we’re called. The idea is that we’re here to support each other, simply by being part of a group. Strength in numbers, I say. If snowtree wants to be on her own, that is entirely up to her. I may regret that I’ve jumped in on this thread, but there’s no one here but the laundry to rant to! MaryO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Dear Ann: > I am well aware of the usage of the word "bugger" in most of your > illustrations. I have friends all around the world and one of my > closest friends is Australian. I am actually semi-literate. It has > been pointed out to me in the past that the fact is more then a bit > difficult to glean from my postings. > Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an American. > I found being called a Bugger irritating rather then amusing, and so I > did not chose to participate in your quit group or answer any posts in > the thread until my name came up once too often for my taste. That is > why I replied at all. > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity. > The June Mooner thing was a joke, Ann. Sorry you could not see that. > This post of mine, however,  is not a joke. I am pissed off by your > condescending manner. You are now in my killfile, so we can no long > annoy each other or anyone else with our replies to each other. I do > not need your brand of aggravation. > Snowtree >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. >I have to say that as an Australian, the word bugger is probably one of the >least offensive names that you could call someone. >Let me share with you some of the contexts in which it is used. The source >is The Concise Macquarie Dictionary (an Australian English dictionary). >Apart from the obvious meaning, a bugger is person or child (as in ‘you >little bugger’). It can also be a foul or contemptible person. >’Bugger all’  means nothing as in ’she left me with bugger all’. >To ‘play silly buggers’ means to engage in time-wasting activities or >frivolous behaviour…(something I’m sure does not apply to Aussies!). >To ‘bugger around’ or about  can be alternated with ‘buggerise about’ and >means to mess about or fiddle around. >’Bugger off’ is to remove oneself or is a strong exclamation of annoyance. >Aussie’s also use the terms ‘like buggery’ which means considerably…as in >the horse ran like buggery. >’Go to buggery’ is another favourite which is basically used as an >alternative to ‘piss off’. >’Off to buggery’ means greatly off course or astray ( which is what I may be >here methinks) >And one which I use frequently is ‘buggered up’ as in I’ve buggered up my >life by smoking! >So as you can see, ‘bugger’ is ingrained in the Australian psyche (well in >mine anyway) >so there is no need to be offended. >I respect your right to not want to be a June Bugger, but I’m not sure I >want to be a June Mooner either! >I think it was Coleen who accidentally on purpose called us the June >Buggies….I can live with that…can you? >Ann

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you did not mention the television add where the dog says "bugger" because it misses the back of the ute (truck for you sepos – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Some of you seem offended by the term bugger. > Hey, you poor bugger, you forgot the phrase "poor bugger." > Dang. > Mike >Too scared to LOL, Mikey! >Ann

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<much snippage> : Also, check out the definition for sodomy. More of us are buggers than you might : think! MON DIEU!!!  From Webster’s New World Dictionary, Third College Edition:  "Any sexual intercourse held to be abnormal". I’m in biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig trouble. Could probably be arrested in more than a few US states, even. Probably will have to go several times around the beads (rosary) in order to achieve salvation.  Maybe even THAT won’t help……. Tammy "well I’ll be buggered" 10M+

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> Buggery is also a slang term for sodomy in the USA. I am an

American. <snip> > Call me uptight if you like.  I also do not care to be referred to as > a slut unless it’s a joke – and it had better be somebody that I know > very well. Bugger fits in that category. I do not know you that well, > nor shall i ever take that opportunity.

Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a slut?  I don’t think so . . . USAer, Sass

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Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even have a special room so as to not offend anyone. Diane M. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . .

Hmmm… let me think about that for a while… wombat OF

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?? What better way to get rid of tension other than sex?  <g> I think the reason every one is so tense is from the prolongued tiptoeing that’s been going on around here.  Let’s get our views out, let’s talk about it, otherwise we just keep holding it in until there’s an explosion.  I think my whole personality is my own disclaimer that I may be offensive at times.  I’ve heard the sound of one hand plonking me.  So be it.  Liven it up folks, you only live once! Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere Seven months, three weeks, 11 minutes and 49 seconds. 3495 cigarettes not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the > group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we > really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a > special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even > have a special room so as to not offend anyone. > Diane M. > Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. > Up to 100 minutes free! > http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Think faster, faster, FASTER, oooooh . . . ahhhhhhhhh . . . <g> Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere Seven months, three weeks, 12 minutes and 26 seconds. 3495 cigarettes not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes.

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>>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->wombat >OF

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass >is a > >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while… >Think faster, faster, FASTER, oooooh . . . ahhhhhhhhh . . . <g>

Oh my…..I think I’ll leave you two alone for a while…. <VBG> Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy She-Spock, >Boldly Going Nowhere >Seven months, three weeks, 12 minutes and 26 seconds. 3495 cigarettes >not smoked, saving $682.60. Life saved: 1 week, 5 days, 3 hours, 15 >minutes.

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> >Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . > Hmmm… let me think about that for a while…

Not for too long now wombat – <g> Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> wombat > OF

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Really, really nice thread… All I know is it doesn’t feel right to want, want, want, to do something… ANYTHING!… To make these cravings go away. Can I somehow maintain one single drop of dignity, and have my anxiety assuaged? I don’t want to be a slut. Really. I swear… (BG) James Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Wait. I mean… I just want to feel better. James. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . .

phew, thank god for that bobf 3m

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>Let’s get our views out, let’s talk about it, otherwise we just keep holding it in until >there’s an explosion,,,,

you were saying… Bobf 3m

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The only *curse* words i ever hear my Mum say are…. sod and bugger…whats good enough for my Mum to say, is good enough for me ;o) There are loads of double meaning names ..you cant please everyone < Can you Sassy ? > )) things even out after a time anyway…. lets all get back to the the two words that stands for what we are all  here for …. *Quitting Smoking* Miss Maggie. Seen all this B4

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the >group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we >really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a >special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even >have a special room so as to not offend anyone. >Diane M. >Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. >Up to 100 minutes free! >http://www.keen.com

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >USAer, >Sass

wait a minute … and what, may i ask, is wrong with being a slut??? iwisse <thinks definitions are all figments of the beholder>

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oh dear … i must apologise profusely … i seem not to have qualified my last post concerning slut-dom with the appropriate smileys.  please add two or three smileys to my last post.  :-) no offense taken nor intended anywhere, folks!  truly!  {{{{{{{ as3 }}}}}}} iwisse <crawling back into her corner again with her definitions>  <g> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sassy – I’m with you, but given the number of new quitters in the >group right now and the accompanying level of tension, do we >really want to go here at this time? Perhaps we could have a >special chat on IRC about the definition of slut.  We could even >have a special room so as to not offend anyone. >Diane M. >Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. >Up to 100 minutes free! >http://www.keen.com

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> you did not mention the television add where the dog says "bugger" because > it misses the back of the ute (truck for you sepos

LOL…that is a funny ad..IMO anyway!

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>Wait a minute . . . anyone who’s had a dick in their mouth or ass is a >slut?  I don’t think so . . . >USAer, >Sass > wait a minute … and what, may i ask, is wrong with being a slut??? > iwisse > <thinks definitions are all figments of the beholder>

Aha!  Someone is finally starting to get the point . . . :^) Sassy She-Spock, Boldly Going Nowhere 7M+

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