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I made it through this one but almost not. I thought I was going to die. I’m going to tell you about it so maybe you can give me some suggestions on how not to let it happen again. I was done with the IV by 2pm Thursday and usually the side effects (nausea, pain, headache) don’t really kick in big time for about 6 hours. I went to bed the regular time Thursday night with about an 8 discomfort and pain. I took chloral hydrate to make me sleep. When I woke up Friday morning the pain (stomach cramps) and nausea was far worse than with the other chemo IVs. This was along with the chest and kidney pain that I get daily from the lupus itself. My mouth was glued shut, from dehydration I guess. I tried to tell my husband that the pain was excruciating and to please, please call an ambulance. I was screaming at him. Apparently it was only in my head though. I continued to scream at him all day but it wasn’t coming out of my mouth. I asked him to call an ambulance and to give me some dilaudid. He thought I was just sleeping and that was my way of dealing with the chemo side effects. It was like one of those nightmares where you are screaming for help but no one can hear you because it’s just in your nightmare. My best friend came over and she told me this morning that I wasn’t saying any words that I was only moaning, that she knew I was in pain but thought that my husband had been giving me my pain meds. I laid there all day screaming to someone to help me, but no one could hear. So I got no meds of any kind all day yesterday. My husband knew enough to give me 2 spoons of chloral hydrate last night before he went to be so I slept thru the night. When I woke up this morning I could communicate and told him what had happened. He was astounded because he thought I’d only been sleeping to get thru the day. I need to know how to not let this happen again, it was the worst experience of my life. Maybe it doesn’t sound so bad but it was the worst nightmare you can imagine. I don’t know what happened because the chemo dosage was just increased by 25%, you wouldn’t think that increase could make such a devastating change in the side effects. How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? I’m in shock. love, catherine

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> I made it through this one but almost not. I thought I was going to die. I’m > going to tell you about it so maybe you can give me some suggestions on how > not to let it happen again.

[text cut] Catherine, I was getting worried as I hadn’t heard from you since we chatted Thursday night.  I am relieved to know you are now doing ok.  OMG, that sounds like a really scary experience. I have a problem with bad nightmares where I will scream in the nightmares while I am sleeping (yes, I will verbally scream in my sleep), and in these dreams I really want to wake up, but for some reason I can’t.  It feels like my muscles are frozen and I can’t move, but according to my partner I am moving and screaming while in these dreams.  It’s really scary, and I am having a sleep study done later this week to see what is causing it.  On that level, I do have some empathy as to what you experienced.  (empathy — is that the right word?). As far as it not happening again — was there any way that you could of written?  like write CALL 911 on a peice of paper and hand it to your husband?  That is just too scary to be in that much pain, not being able to talk, and not being able to get your pain meds to make matters worse.  I was really hoping you would of gone to the hospital when I spoke with you Thursday night — you sounded like you were in very bad shape and I was scared Thursday night when we talked. Have a neighbor or  a friend call and check in with you after your next chemo and let them know specifically what to look for.  Also let your husband know.. Tell him if you can’t talk or communicate that it is an emergency and to call the paramedics.     OMG, I am just so frightened at what happened … it sends shivers down me to read your message. You take care and I hope to talk with you soon — be sure to get all of this communicated to your husband and close friends, should your mouth get "glued shut" again.    The only time my mouth has felt "glued shut" was when I was given a drug that caused me to have a extraprymatal(sp) reaction .. my mouth, jaw, tounge, etc, all locked to where I couldn’t talk .. I only made noises, but when I picked up the phone to call 911 because I couldn’t talk and was having problems breathing, they got the point over the phone and dispatched the paramedics.  I remember them asking me what my emergency was, and I responded with mumbles .. on the phone they said for me to make two noises for paramedics, and three noises for paramedics and police, etc … we communicated that way. Anyway — you take care .. catch ya later!  BTW, if you / anyone wants to watch a COOL airshow and fireworks display via the Internet, tune into WWW.WHAS11.COM and click on links to watch Thunder over the net.  It’s on now (the airshow) and it goes thru to later tonight.   It is the Thunder over Louisville airshow and fireworks show … Skippy

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> How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? > I’m in shock.

Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo and let them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching for. Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be confused.)  The doubling up could be part of the problem. I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and you may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while minimizing the side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. Jon Miller

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Sorry you had such a hard time Catherine. I don’t have any great suggestions… more just wanted to let you know I care. <hugs> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I made it through this one but almost not. I thought I was going to die. I’m > going to tell you about it so maybe you can give me some suggestions on how > not to let it happen again. I was done with the IV by 2pm Thursday and usually > the side effects (nausea, pain, headache) don’t really kick in big time for > about 6 hours. I went to bed the regular time Thursday night with about an 8 > discomfort and pain. I took chloral hydrate to make me sleep. When I woke up > Friday morning the pain (stomach cramps) and nausea was far worse than with > the other chemo IVs. This was along with the chest and kidney pain that I get > daily from the lupus itself. My mouth was glued shut, from dehydration I > guess. I tried to tell my husband that the pain was excruciating and to > please, please call an ambulance. I was screaming at him. Apparently it was > only in my head though. I continued to scream at him all day but it wasn’t > coming out of my mouth. I asked him to call an ambulance and to give me some > dilaudid. > He thought I was just sleeping and that was my way of dealing with the chemo > side effects. It was like one of those nightmares where you are screaming for > help but no one can hear you because it’s just in your nightmare. My best > friend came over and she told me this morning that I wasn’t saying any words > that I was only moaning, that she knew I was in pain but thought that > my husband had been giving me my pain meds. I laid there all day screaming to > someone to help me, but no one could hear. So I got no meds of any kind all > day yesterday. My husband knew enough to give me 2 spoons of chloral hydrate > last night before he went to be so I slept thru the night. When I woke up this > morning I could communicate and told him what had happened. He > was astounded because he thought I’d only been sleeping to get thru the day. I > need to know how to not let this happen again, it was the worst experience of > my life. Maybe it doesn’t sound so bad but it was the worst nightmare you can > imagine. I don’t know what happened because the chemo dosage was just > increased by 25%, you wouldn’t think that increase could make such a > devastating change in the side effects. How am I ever going to go for the next > chemo when I know this can happen? I’m in shock. love, catherine

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geez catherine… that is so scary to think of that happening to you.  so glad you are still here of course and things pulled through.  maybe it is a warning of sorts for the rest of us to heed. i can not think of anything that might help you except an alarm clock that if you can not shut it off, it might signal your loved ones to the fact that maybe you need am ambulance. something like that maybe? hope it will not ever happen again!!  hugs! Always, pam / cloud

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> I don’t know what happened because the chemo dosage was just >increased by 25%, you wouldn’t think that increase could make such a >devastating change in the side effects.

Catherine, We spoke in email, but we did not talk about this.  Please, do not sell yourself short.  An increase by 25% is a pretty big step.  I’d suggest you call your MD on Monday and talk with him about reducing your dose some, if possible, and build up a little slower from then on. If you to to http://www.allexperts.com, go to the Health/Medicine section.  You will find all sorts of medical topics, most of them had MD’s there to answer questions. Why not post your experience from your last dose of Chemo (let them know the chemical name of the medication), and be sure to mention how much of an increase occured this time.  See what they have to say. You can also type it out to me, and I will post it to a board on AOL.  The Dr. is an Oncologist/Hematologist.  I have spoken with this Dr. in the past (My Dad died from Colon Cancer when I was 12…he died on his 42nd Birthday). I had a Cancer scare last year, and he was terrific in answering my questions and calming my fears. As I said, I will post it if you want me to and then send you his follow-up/response to your question. Thinking of you and hoping things are calming down for you. Hugs, Robin I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice.  The information posted is information I have learned from researching or learning from my own disease.

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>geez

catherine… that is so scary to think of that happening to you.  so >glad you

are still here of course and things pulled through.  maybe it is a >warning of

sorts for the rest of us to heed. >i can not think of anything that might help

you except an alarm clock that >if you can not shut it off, it might signal your

loved ones to the fact that >maybe you need am ambulance. >something like that maybe? >hope it will not ever happen again!!  hugs! >Always, >pam / cloud

Catherine,      You poor girl. What a frighteming experience. I would be interested to know what your Drs. say about what happened to you. Glad that you are back from the "twilight zone". Could it have been a reaction between the increased chemo and your sleeping med? Hope you can get some answers before next time. Hang in there. eloise

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Catherine ,     Please explain what happened to your Doc the same way you described it here . Let them know you could not communicate . Peace , Richard

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I made it through this one but almost not. I thought I was going to die. I’m > going to tell you about it so maybe you can give me some suggestions on how > not to let it happen again. > I was done with the IV by 2pm Thursday and usually the side effects (nausea, > pain, headache) don’t really kick in big time for about 6 hours. I went to > bed the regular time Thursday night with about an 8 discomfort and pain. I > took chloral hydrate to make me sleep. > When I woke up Friday morning the pain (stomach cramps) and nausea was far > worse than with the other chemo IVs. This was along with the chest and > kidney pain that I get daily from the lupus itself. My mouth was glued shut, > from dehydration I guess. I tried to tell my husband that the pain was > excruciating and to please, please call an ambulance. I was screaming at > him. Apparently it was only in my head though. I continued to scream at him > all day but it wasn’t coming out of my mouth. I asked him to call an > ambulance and to give me some dilaudid. > He thought I was just sleeping and that was my way of dealing with the chemo > side effects. It was like one of those nightmares where you are screaming > for help but no one can hear you because it’s just in your nightmare. My > best friend came over and she told me this morning that I wasn’t saying any > words that I was only moaning, that she knew I was in pain but thought that > my husband had been giving me my pain meds. I laid there all day screaming > to someone to help me, but no one could hear. So I got no meds of any kind > all day yesterday. My husband knew enough to give me 2 spoons of chloral > hydrate last night before he went to be so I slept thru the night. When I > woke up this morning I could communicate and told him what had happened. He > was astounded because he thought I’d only been sleeping to get thru the day. > I need to know how to not let this happen again, it was the worst experience > of my life. Maybe it doesn’t sound so bad but it was the worst nightmare you > can imagine. I don’t know what happened because the chemo dosage was just > increased by 25%, you wouldn’t think that increase could make such a > devastating change in the side effects. > How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? > I’m in shock. > love, > catherine

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No radiation thank god or I don’t think I could go through with the treatment. I had a premonition about this one but I chalked it up to not wanting to do it. We were halfway to the highway and I realized I didn’t have my wedding ring on. The man would have gone back to get it but I told him no. I should have gone back I think. Silly but I believe they are some sort of good luck charm.. Tonight I just feel sort of weak and out of it. The chemo side effects are back to the way they’ve been before this one and I can take that. love, catherine PS: Thank you all for caring so much. I know I couldn’t do this without you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? > I’m in shock. > Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo and let > them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching for. > Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be confused.) The > doubling up could be part of the problem. > I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and you > may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while minimizing the > side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. > Jon Miller

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Thank you Robin. You could post this to Aol board if it’s not too much trouble because if there is no way to change it the next time then I choose kidney failure over this. They started the IV same as usual. The other times they gave me a anti nausea that melted on my tongue. When I asked about it this time they said it was no longer covered as part of the treatment and if I had any zofran of my own I could take it now. I did have one and I took it…pill form.That’s the only thing I’m aware of that was different other than the dosage of cytoxan going from 1000mg to 1200 mg. They ran the saline first ..then the cytoxan..then more saline to clear the vein. The IV was done by about 2 pm. We came home and I didn’t feel too bad. Went to bed about 10 pm and I took 2 tsp. of chloral hydrate same as the other times. I woke the next morning with my mouth dry and coated and with *severe* stomach cramps and a *severe headache*. My husband was already up and I called out to him to come to the bedroom. I tried to get out of bed but I was too weak. Eventually he came in and gave me a sip of water. He says then I drifted off. What I thought happened was I was trying to tell him to give me my pain  and other meds. He covered me and left the room. I tried and tried to call him back but the noise wouldn’t come out. I was screaming on the inside like one of those dreams where you can’t move your body or make any sound. I drifted on and off for hours, trying to call to him. When he would come in to give me a sip of water and wipe my face I would try to tell him to call an ambulance but I couldn’t make him understand. My friend came over and rubbed my back for awhile and told me this morning she knew I was in pain because I was moaning but not saying any words. At bedtime last night my husband gave me 2 teaspoons of chloral hydrate and I drifted for a few hours and fell asleep about 4 am. I woke at 7:30 this morning and I was able to move and get to the bathroom with his help and start to take all my meds. By noon today things were almost the same as the other times except for a tremendous weakness. Same cramps, nausea and so on. Tonight I’m going to bed early and tomorrow things will be ok I hope. One of the things they tell you is to drink lots of fluid the days before and after the chemo or it can do damage to the bladder. I hope I haven’t done any damage to my bladder, that’s all I need

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know what happened because the chemo dosage was just >increased by 25%, you wouldn’t think that increase could make such a >devastating change in the side effects. > Catherine, > We spoke in email, but we did not talk about this.  Please, do not sell > yourself short.  An increase by 25% is a pretty big step.  I’d suggest you call > your MD on Monday and talk with him about reducing your dose some, if possible, > and build up a little slower from then on. > If you to to http://www.allexperts.com, go to the Health/Medicine section. You > will find all sorts of medical topics, most of them had MD’s there to answer > questions. Why not post your experience from your last dose of Chemo (let them > know the chemical name of the medication), and be sure to mention how much of > an increase occured this time.  See what they have to say. > You can also type it out to me, and I will post it to a board on AOL.  The Dr. > is an Oncologist/Hematologist.  I have spoken with this Dr. in the past (My Dad > died from Colon Cancer when I was 12…he died on his 42nd Birthday). I had a > Cancer scare last year, and he was terrific in answering my questions and > calming my fears. > As I said, I will post it if you want me to and then send you his > follow-up/response to your question. > Thinking of you and hoping things are calming down for you. > Hugs, > Robin > I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. > PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice.  The information posted is > information I have learned from researching or learning from my own

disease.

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Sowwy Robin, I guess that should have been email right? I’m brain dead today.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No radiation thank god or I don’t think I could go through with the > treatment. I had a premonition about this one but I chalked it up to not > wanting to do it. We were halfway to the highway and I realized I didn’t > have my wedding ring on. The man would have gone back to get it but I told > him no. I should have gone back I think. Silly but I believe they are some > sort of good luck charm.. > Tonight I just feel sort of weak and out of it. The chemo side effects are > back to the way they’ve been before this one and I can take that. > love, > catherine > PS: Thank you all for caring so much. I know I couldn’t do this without you. > > How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can > happen? > > I’m in shock. > Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo > and let > them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching > for. > Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be confused.) > The > doubling up could be part of the problem. > I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and > you > may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while > minimizing the > side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. > Jon Miller

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 Please do call – Catherine, and don’t be stoic about it!  I’m sure the raise in dose was a big problem, but there have to be adjustments they can make when you tell them *exactly* what’s happening, and how miserable you are.   I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten, but how many more treatments are you supposed to have Catherine?  Please make it clear that you do not intend to continue under this much misery. ,,,OR, we can all come to your next appt. and make it really clear for him!  I wish that were possible ,g>. Take god care , codeee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? > I’m in shock. >Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo and let >them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching for. >Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be confused.)  The >doubling up could be part of the problem. >I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and you >may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while minimizing the >side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. >Jon Miller

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>I need to know how to not let this happen again, it was the worst experience >of my life.

Catherine, My husband bought me a whistle at Kmart, in the sports section, to keep by my bed. I have never experienced anything as frightening as what you wrote but there have been a few times my pain has affected my breathing to where I couldn’t talk. The whistle worked. Better luck with future treatments. God bless. Karen W. New Screen Name and Email Address for "MOM ONLY" Was WellmanFam4.

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I think that might be it karen…two toots for "GIVE ME MY GD MEDS"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I need to know how to not let this happen again, it was the worst experience >of my life. > Catherine, > My husband bought me a whistle at Kmart, in the sports section, to keep by my > bed. I have never experienced anything as frightening as what you wrote but > there have been a few times my pain has affected my breathing to where I > couldn’t talk. The whistle worked. Better luck with future treatments. God > bless. > Karen W. > New Screen Name and Email Address for "MOM ONLY" > Was WellmanFam4.

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lol, I wonder what he’s think if I showed up with all my net friends Now you be nice doc or they’re gonna getya! I asked about the duration of treatments on Thursday and he said 6 if they are not showing any results (this originally was 3) and 12 if they are making me better. That was a bit shocking to me. A possibility of 12 treatments was never mentioned to me when this whole nightmare started. The strange thing is that my "creat" count (that’s the one that tells what’s happening to kidneys specifically) not only has not dropped but has risen! That means I’m closer to kidney failure than when we started. Now does that make any sense at all? I will talk to him on the telephone and tell him what happened this time the day after chemo and find out if there’s some way of easing the intensity of the side effects I had this time. I think I’m his guinea pig. I do know for a fact that I’m the first lupie in this town to have this treatment and perhaps the first in the province. I hate to think he is only doing this treatment to me to gain for himself and there is little hope of it actually helping me. love, catherine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->  Please do call – Catherine, and don’t be stoic about it!  I’m sure > the raise in dose was a big problem, but there have to be adjustments > they can make when you tell them *exactly* what’s happening, and how > miserable you are. >   I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten, but how many more > treatments are you supposed to have Catherine?  Please make it > clear that you do not intend to continue under this much misery. > ,,,OR, we can all come to your next appt. and make it really clear > for him!  I wish that were possible ,g>. > Take god care , > codeee >> How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can happen? >> I’m in shock. >Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo and let >them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching for. >Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be confused.)  The >doubling up could be part of the problem. >I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and you >may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while minimizing the >side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. >Jon Miller

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 Catherine, I wish we could be there for you. I don’t know how Canadian health works, but is there any way to get another opinion?  I know you said he’s the only one in the province.. but I wonder if there’s someone elsewhere more experienced…I hate to think of you as his guinea pig too. ((((Hugs))) codeee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >lol, I wonder what he’s think if I showed up with all my net friends Now >you be nice doc or they’re gonna getya! >I asked about the duration of treatments on Thursday and he said 6 if they >are not showing any results (this originally was 3) and 12 if they are >making me better. That was a bit shocking to me. A possibility of 12 >treatments was never mentioned to me when this whole nightmare started. The >strange thing is that my "creat" count (that’s the one that tells what’s >happening to kidneys specifically) not only has not dropped but has risen! >That means I’m closer to kidney failure than when we started. Now does that >make any sense at all? I will talk to him on the telephone and tell him what >happened this time the day after chemo and find out if there’s some way of >easing the intensity of the side effects I had this time. I think I’m his >guinea pig. I do know for a fact that I’m the first lupie in this town to >have this treatment and perhaps the first in the province. I hate to think >he is only doing this treatment to me to gain for himself and there is >little hope of it actually helping me. >love, >catherine >  Please do call – Catherine, and don’t be stoic about it!  I’m sure > the raise in dose was a big problem, but there have to be adjustments > they can make when you tell them *exactly* what’s happening, and how > miserable you are. >   I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten, but how many more > treatments are you supposed to have Catherine?  Please make it > clear that you do not intend to continue under this much misery. > ,,,OR, we can all come to your next appt. and make it really clear > for him!  I wish that were possible ,g>. > Take god care , > codeee > >> How am I ever going to go for the next chemo when I know this can >happen? > >> I’m in shock. > >Call your oncologist or radiologist or whoever is in charge of the chemo >and let > >them know.  This could be a sign that they (and you) need to be watching >for. > >Is there radiation too?  (That’s my recollection but I could be >confused.)  The > >doubling up could be part of the problem. > >I don’t know the answer to your question — this is a serious problem and >you > >may have to be trying to maximize the benefit of the chemo while >minimizing the > >side effects, sometimes a tricky deal. > >Jon Miller

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>Sowwy Robin, I guess that should have been email right? I’m brain dead >today. >"canuckian"

What did you do??  No need to apologize….I think ;o) Hugs, Robin I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice.  The information posted is information I have learned from researching or learning from my own disease.

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Anne, big congrats on making it through the first week. It was tough for me, too. Just keep on keeping on…don’t smoke…drink lots of water…do all the things that have helped a little more often and look for a few new things to put in your bag of tricks. Have yourself a big celebration dance…the band is playing just for you right now… Lane f3as3 — 2m  3w 3d 3:15 Smoke-Free. 3,408 cigarettes NOT smoked. $681.60 Money saved. 1w 4d 20:00 Life saved.. Read my "Diary of a Quitter" at http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I made it to a week but today has been the worst. Don’t know what is wrong > but I am barely hanging on.

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hi anne, my newsreader is threading posts in quite the odd manner, so i don’t know if you’ve posted before about using nrt replacement therapy or not. if not, maybe it’s worth a look? nrt was very helpful to me during those first, admittedly very difficult, few weeks. i know it feels like hell now, and that it’s so hard, but it will get better (and better, and better!) hang in there, and let us know how you are. carol 7 w

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> I made it to a week but today has been the worst. Don’t know what is wrong > but I am barely hanging on.

Hang in there Anne – you’re doing beautifully.  I know the first week is horrible.  You did it Anne!  You successfully completed an entire week without smoking – that is a major accomplishment. Tomorrow will be better.  Each time you get through a tough time, you come through it stronger and wiser. It’s worth the effort Anne – you’re worth the effort. Catie f3as3 6M Before you buy.

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> Don’t know what is wrong but I am barely hanging on.

I read through the replies and can’t really add anything that hasn’t been said, so I’ll repeat it Great job on the FWD and don’t worry.  You’ve been through what will be the worst week you’ll probably ever spend barring serious physical ailment.  It *will* get better! Cheers, Rob f3as3 One month, one week, two days.

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Hi Anne – I just wanted to reassure you that it does get easier.  It is a huge relearning process, though.  When I get twinges now (they aren’t all that often or that strong, thank goodness), it’s usually because some major stressor has come along, and I’ve always associated coping with that kind of stress with cigs.  Up until quitting, that is.  So now it has become a kind of unlearning process.  I’m finding that many, many things are possible without cigs.  In fact, there are lots of benefits to not firing them up … like for instance, I often used to singe my hair when I lit one outside.  Now I get to keep the same doo until the next time I go to the hairdresser … no little emergency fires.  Or burn marks on tables, rugs, you name it.  Or smelly clothes … oh well, you get the idea. Hang in there, Anne.  We’re with ya. Carol from Vancouver 1y 9m 3w 3d smoke-free, -13,271 deathsticks = $3,317.75 more to enjoy life with, 1m 2w 2d 1:55h longer to frolic and cavort

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Hey, Annie, big congratulations for hitting a week. Yep, it’s tough… and you may find it tough for yet a while longer. It varies from person to person. All my best thoughts to you on your achievement… Onwards… And upwards! …pat. (31/07/00) *ribbit* — Pat & Ash http://www3.sympatico.ca/patash

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Hi Anne, hang on tight girl and don’t let go, you don’t want to go through that first week again no, no, no……this will happen at times throughout your quit when nicodemon comes around to try and tempt you to go back with him. Do *whatever* you can to stick it out …..are you on any NRT ….have you recently cut down on it…….keep as busy as you can but not mentally busy cos that might make you frustrated if you’re suffering brain fog too…… take a look at the cognitive quitting site for some useful tips http://www.cognitivequitting.com/ Keep us posted on how you’re doing Anne… padders  (

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