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  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &#62; ? &#62; He was VERY proud of his find&#44; and said something to the effect&#44;  &#62; ? &#62; &#34;Aren&#8217;t you glad we could find something as small as this?&#34; &#160;I just  &#62; ? &#62; GLARED at him&#44; and said a firm [...]]]></description>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; ? &gt; He was VERY proud of his find&#44; and said something to the effect&#44;  &gt; ? &gt; &quot;Aren&#8217;t you glad we could find something as small as this?&quot; &nbsp;I just  &gt; ? &gt; GLARED at him&#44; and said a firm &quot;NO!&quot;.  &gt; ?  &gt; ? At that close range&#44; the wand will report amazingly small amounts of  &gt; ? anything metallic. &nbsp;I&#8217;d like to hear some experiences from those with  body  &gt; ? piercings in strange places. &nbsp;Interesting to hear what the TSA goobs do  in a  &gt; ? case like that.  &gt; ?  &gt; ?  &gt; A gleeful strip search comes to mind.  &gt; Don&#8217;t you feel safer now&#44; knowing our TSA boys are keeping the skies  &gt; free from terrorists <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>TSA Does not supply Security. &nbsp;TSA supplies the ILLUSION of Security. </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Service > ? &gt; He was VERY proud of his find&#44; and said something to the  effect&#44; > ? &gt; &quot;Aren&#8217;t you glad we could find something as small as this?&quot; &nbsp;I  just > ? &gt; GLARED at him&#44; and said a firm &quot;NO!&quot;. > ? > ? At that close range&#44; the wand will report amazingly small amounts  of > ? anything metallic. &nbsp;I&#8217;d like to hear some experiences from those  with  &gt; body > ? piercings in strange places. &nbsp;Interesting to hear what the TSA  goobs do  &gt; in a > ? case like that. > ? > ? > A gleeful strip search comes to mind. > Don&#8217;t you feel safer now&#44; knowing our TSA boys are keeping the  skies > free from terrorists <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; TSA Does not supply Security. &nbsp;TSA supplies the ILLUSION of Security. </p>
<p>No&#44; TSA doesn&#8217;t even supply the ILLUSION of security! &nbsp;:-)  They supply a BLATANT FARCE that fooled nobody&#44; as an illusion  tend to fool most folks.  The Hong Kong TSA goons confiscated ANOTHER one of my finger-nail  clippers! &nbsp;If I had been carrying it in my carry-on&#44; instead of  my wife&#44; I would have demonstrated to the TSA goon that my bare  middle finger could do more damage to him than that finger-nail  clipper can.m  And then I may be jailed for a few days &#8230; but the news media  would pick up the news &#8230; and everyone will be happy about the  security. &nbsp;;-)  &#8212; Bob. </p>
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		<title>Clothes shopping for DH (dining)&#8230;is this OK?</title>
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 &#62; Enjoy your cruise&#44; Monica. Feel free to ignore the snobs in this group. 
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<p> &gt; Enjoy your cruise&#44; Monica. Feel free to ignore the snobs in this group. </p>
<p>Why is it that anyone on this newsgroup who experesses enjoyment of  formal nights and encourages new cruisers (and veterans) to comply  with &nbsp;the suggested dress described&#44; well in advance&#44; by the  cruiselines&#44; gets classified as a snob? What&#8217;s that all about? Just as  some folks pick a cruise for a more casual atmosphere&#44; others might  specifically pick a cruise for its formality &#8211; not because they&#8217;re  snobs but because they enjoy dressing up&#44; dining elegantly&#44; and  spending time in an atmosphere of elegance shared by their fellow  revelers. For me&#44; I have so little opportunity to dress and dine  formally at home that dressing up on cruises is something I really&#44;  really enjoy. I&#8217;m a jeans and t-shirts kind of gal every day&#44; but I&#8217;m  really looking forward to my HAL cruise in March when I can dress up a  few nights and get caught up in the elegance of the evening I&#8217;ll share  with 2000 other people. I&#8217;ve also taken a Windjammer cruise where if  you showed up for dinner in anything other than a bathing suit or  shorts and a tee you were overdressed &#8211; loved that too. Formal nights  on cruises are a highlight for me and I&#8217;m sure for many others &#8211; it&#8217;s  too bad that folks who choose not to dress up might consider us snobs  for enjoying the spirit of the evening.  Really&#44; cruise ships are pretty lenient compared to some fancier  restaurants I&#8217;ve been to where gentlemen absolutely will not be seated  without a jacket and tie. The meals are worth the effort of dressing  up at these restaurants&#44; and I&#8217;ve found that formal night meals on  cruises are where you&#8217;ll find the fancier/better offerings. It may  just be worth your while to make the extra effort to dress  appropriately for the dining room so you can enjoy&#44; quite possibly&#44;  the best food of the week.  Do what you want &#8211; it&#8217;s your cruise. But&#44; you&#8217;re not alone on the  ship.  Lee </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->This was an extreme example of how you can take anything you&#8217;re >comfortable in and turn it into formal wear. &nbsp;The key was the total >leather ensemble&#44; of leather jacket (shawl collar resembling a 1920s tux >jacket)&#44; formal tux shirt&#44; leather bow tie and gold watch with diamond >accents. &nbsp;When you create an elegant picture out of Rock &#8216;n Roll and >Biker clothes the single elements become transformed by the whole.  &gt;You wouldn&#8217;t happen to have a photo of this&#44; would you? &nbsp;I&#8217;d love to  &gt;see it&#44; although your description made for a great image in &nbsp;my head.  &gt;Karen&#44; has always liked the tailored formal style of the &#8217;50s Doris  &gt;Day in her Rock Hudson movies.  &gt;http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews/pic.html </p>
<p>Sorry&#44; Karen&#44; as an artist I take photographs. &nbsp;I rarely am in them. &nbsp; I  did do some self portraits back in South Carolina when I was working on  my &nbsp;Masters. &nbsp;But none of the images include me dressed that way. &nbsp;Hey  Rene Z brought that whole Doris Day look back in &quot;Down With Love&quot;. &nbsp;Go  for it girl. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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<p> &gt; Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent yourself  &gt; for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did the whole  &gt; long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting together a look  &gt; for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I have in my closet. &nbsp;I  &gt; once did a black leather tux out of black Levis 501s&#44; </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a normal definition of formal attire that would include  501&#8217;s. </p>
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<p>Hi Brian. &nbsp;Well&#44; I did read the first link during my research. &nbsp;Read it  again just now to see where I missed the info on dressing formal during the  formal evening even if you do not attend formal dining on those nights.  Guess I missed it again as I still don&#8217;t see it <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;Our TA didn&#8217;t mention  the dress code in question. &nbsp;Maybe she thought she might lose a booking? &nbsp;I  don&#8217;t know. &nbsp;She has mentioned&#44; when I inquire about proper attire&#44; that  this ship is leaving from Texas with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be  lots of men in western wear (including boots) in the dining rooms.  Also&#44; I have been on the second website you&#8217;ve linked to. Logged in with my  booking number and browsed the pages. &nbsp;Again&#44; I don&#8217;t see that it&#8217;s  requested we dress in formal wear even if we don&#8217;t do formal dining nights.  I guess we need to stop wasting bandwidth with this topic &lt;g&gt; &nbsp;I simply  wanted to know if what we chose for DH would be appropriate for dining in  all other areas except the formal dining rooms on formal night. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not  going to don a suite and tie and we won&#8217;t stay locked up in our cabin on  formal nights. &nbsp;Thanks for all the feedback. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be sure and report back  at the end of Jan (provided we haven&#8217;t been tossed overboard for looking  like heathens &lt;g&gt;)  Monica  ps&#8230;black 501&#8217;s for formal? hummmm &lt;lol&gt; </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I hear you Monica&#44; but I find it a little hard to believe that your TA  &gt; didn&#8217;t tell you about Princess Lines culture. (The kinds of pax and what  &gt; people wear and when.) &nbsp;Likewise&#44; I am surprised that in reading general  &gt; information at Princess Website you missed  &gt; http://www.princess.com/onboard/answer/bring.html. &nbsp;Also&#44; as soon as you  &gt; got your booking number&#44; you could have logged in at:  &gt; https://book.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer/login.page and got more  &gt; details about your itinerary&#44; excursions (with the option to book  &gt; online) and information about Formal and Casual nights.  </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt; Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent > yourself for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did > the whole long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting > together a look for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I > have in my closet. &nbsp;I once did a black leather tux out of black Levis > 501s&#44;  &gt; I can&#8217;t imagine a normal definition of formal attire that would  &gt; include 501&#8217;s. </p>
<p>By themselves black Levis button fly jeans are indeed the very opposite  of formal. When worn underneath leather chaps&#44; us Artist types can  really push the envelope and be seen for the formal image we want to  project.  This was an extreme example of how you can take anything you&#8217;re  comfortable in and turn it into formal wear. &nbsp;The key was the total  leather ensemble&#44; of leather jacket (shawl collar resembling a 1920s tux  jacket)&#44; formal tux shirt&#44; leather bow tie and gold watch with diamond  accents. &nbsp;When you create an elegant picture out of Rock &#8216;n Roll and  Biker clothes the single elements become transformed by the whole.  Take the classic tux with tails. &nbsp;How does a gentleman define an image  that doesn&#8217;t confuse him with his butler or a waiter in a gourmet  upscale eatery? &nbsp; Accessories&#44; a great cut and a refined feeling about  himself&#44; an attitude. These things present the image. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not about  the tails&#44; it&#8217;s about the total look.  That&#8217;s the fun part about a vacation&#44; cruise&#44; gallery opening&#44; or  opening night at the opera. &nbsp;You get to play dress-up. Don&#8217;t just rent a  tux or buy couture that somebody else told you is dress-up. &nbsp;Create your  own image&#44; let the mirror be your guide. &nbsp;Transformation is kinda like  picking a persona for a game. &nbsp;It&#8217;s grown-up play time with clothes.  &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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<p>Thank you Becca! &nbsp;We leave out of Galveston on Jan 22&#8230;provided we can GET  there <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;Farmer&#8217;s Almanac has a treacherous weather in the forecast for  North East Texas that week. &nbsp;Here&#8217;s hoping Farmer&#8217;s is WRONG <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;The further  south we travel it won&#8217;t be an issue&#44; but it certainly can be here at home.  We intend to dress tastefully wherever we go&#8230;do so the rest of our lives.  Can&#8217;t imagine not doing it on a cruise ship. &nbsp;Thanks for the kind words <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> inquire about proper attire&#44; that this ship is leaving from Texas > with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be lots of men in western > wear (including boots) in the dining rooms.  </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->Over the years&#44; I have noticed a change in the way people dress after >dinner. &nbsp;People change into more casual clothes. They go to the showroom >lounge&#44; the casino and to the bars. Is it right or wrong? &nbsp;I can not  &gt;I&#8217;ve also noticed that there is a huge range of dining times on  &gt;Princess &#8212; you can easily eat your evening meal anytime  &gt;between 5:00pm and 10:00pm.  &gt;I&#8217;ve noticed that prior to 8:00pm&#44; lots of people are still casual&#44;  &gt;as they&#8217;re not yet ready for dinner&#44; and after 8:00pm lots of people  &gt;are again casual&#44; as they&#8217;ve already dined.  &gt;I own a tux and a dinner jacket&#44; and I rarely bother hauling them  &gt;on cruises any more. &nbsp; &#8230;maybe for New Year&#8217;s eve.  &gt;Just throw on a sports coat&#44; if needed.  &gt;Which&#44; of course&#44; brings me to the real point of my post  &gt;&#8211; for what sport are sports coats intended? </p>
<p>Originally&#44; Fox Hunt. &nbsp;They&#8217;ve been modified over the ages.  &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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<p> &gt; inquire about proper attire&#44; that this ship is leaving from Texas  &gt; with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be lots of men in western  &gt; wear (including boots) in the dining rooms. </p>
<p>Monica&#44; I hope you enjoy the Grand Princess as much as I did. When is  your cruise?  I have cruised out of Texas a few times. &nbsp;You will see plenty of people  in jeans and western wear on this ship. &nbsp;They will also be some of the  nicest people you will ever cruise with.  Over the years&#44; I have noticed a change in the way people dress after  dinner. &nbsp;People change into more casual clothes. They go to the showroom  lounge&#44; the casino and to the bars. Is it right or wrong? &nbsp;I can not  say&#44; I will just say I have noticed it&#44; and it is happening more often.  You described what you will be wearing and it sounds fine to me. If you  feel uncomfortable&#44; then you can wear something else in the future.  BTW&#44; the swimming pools and hot tubs on Princess will be open&#44; I can not  imagine people going swimming in formal wear&#44; can you?  Enjoy your cruise&#44; Monica. Feel free to ignore the snobs in this group.  Most of the people you meet on cruises are actually nice people.  Becca &nbsp;&lt;&#8212;&#8211;enjoy your first cruise&#8230;  MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/  Miracle in May http://www.cruisemaster.com/miracle.htm  Canada &#8211; New England http://www.cruisemaster.com/carnivalFall.htm  Caribbean Princess http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm </p>
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<p>Grand Princess&#44; sailing out of Galveston to Western Caribbean in Jan. &nbsp;We  won&#8217;t be doing the two formal nights. &nbsp;This is what we bought for DH for the  various dining rooms. &nbsp;Docker type pants in two shades of khaki and one pair  of black and one navy. &nbsp;Eight shirts&#44; all collared&#8230;4 solid color polos&#44;  one pull over (collared) print and 3 long sleeve button down the front. &nbsp;One  pair brown &quot;semi dress&quot; dress shoes. &nbsp;Still need to find a black pair. &nbsp;At  this point we haven&#8217;t bought ties or a jacket. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not a tie person but  I&#8217;ll make him wear one if he needs to. &nbsp;Will he be breaking any rules  (implied or otherwise) if he didn&#8217;t wear a jacket?  Thanks&#44;  Monica </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Grand Princess&#44; sailing out of Galveston to Western Caribbean in Jan. &nbsp;We  &gt; won&#8217;t be doing the two formal nights. &nbsp;This is what we bought for DH for  the  &gt; various dining rooms. &nbsp;Docker type pants in two shades of khaki and one  pair  &gt; of black and one navy. &nbsp;Eight shirts&#44; all collared&#8230;4 solid color polos&#44;  &gt; one pull over (collared) print and 3 long sleeve button down the front.  One  &gt; pair brown &quot;semi dress&quot; dress shoes. &nbsp;Still need to find a black pair. &nbsp;At  &gt; this point we haven&#8217;t bought ties or a jacket. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not a tie person but  &gt; I&#8217;ll make him wear one if he needs to. &nbsp;Will he be breaking any rules  &gt; (implied or otherwise) if he didn&#8217;t wear a jacket?  &gt; Thanks&#44;  &gt; Monica </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not going to the dining room on formal nights&#44; then no&#44; you&#8217;re not  breaking any &quot;rules&quot;. </p>
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<p> &gt;If you&#8217;re not going to the dining room on formal nights&#44; then no&#44; you&#8217;re not  &gt;breaking any &quot;rules&quot;. </p>
<p>Hi Norm&#44;  Princess requests that you stick with the dress of the evening in all  public areas. &nbsp;Granted&#44; they do not enforce this.  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com </p>
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<p>Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? </p>
<p> &gt; Actually&#44; several of the cruise lines print something like &quot;please be  &gt; respectful by remaining formally dressed in the ship&#8217;s other public  &gt; rooms all evening&quot; in their version of the ship&#8217;s daily news. &nbsp;It&#8217;s </p>
<p>and leave off the &quot;potatoes&quot; to e-mail) </p>
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<p> &gt;Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  &gt;formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  &gt;the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? </p>
<p>Hi Monica&#44;  Correct&#44; Princess as well as some other cruise lines&#44; ask that you  stay dressed as requested in the public areas. &nbsp;The cruise lines  believe that this adds to the ambience onboard the ship.  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com </p>
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<p>That&#8217;s just ridiculous <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;This will be my first cruise but I&#8217;m willing to  bet this is not reinforced or even expected to be. &nbsp;We&#8217;re totally willing to  respect the formal night wear in the dining room and since we choose not to  dress for this occasion&#44; we would dine elsewhere. &nbsp;Not a problem. &nbsp;But&#44; to  expect everyone on the ship that chooses not to dress for formal dining  night to stay in their rooms for the rest of the evening is ridiculous!  Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Exactly. >Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the >formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any  of >the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)?  </p>
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<p>Monica&#44;  If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the  cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up  to dinner in sweats and swim wear.  I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the  theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and  you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  cut-offs&#44; sandals and &nbsp;an &quot;I&#8217;m with stupid&quot; &nbsp;t-shirt just think how out  of place you&#8217;d look. &nbsp;Think how &nbsp;out of place you&#8217;d feel.  On most ships you don&#8217;t have to break the bank for formal wear. &nbsp;Women  don&#8217;t have to go out and buy floor length couture&#44; a simple cocktail  dress will do. &nbsp;Men can rent a tux&#44; or wear a dark business suit&#44; shirt  and tie. There&#8217;s more flexibility for individual expression then you may  realize. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen African-American men and woman wearing really  smashing flowing caftan robes. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen Indian and some other women  look absolutely knock-out in a Sari.  I&#8217;ve worn a Black Suede Jacket paired with very dark charcoal pants set  off with a Red Silk Shirt and Black Silk Tie with open weave black  leather slip-ons for footwear.  Rather than viewing the suggestion as something being imposed upon you&#44;  look at it as a chance to play dress-up. &nbsp;Have fun with it! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt;That&#8217;s just ridiculous <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;This will be my first cruise but I&#8217;m willing to  &gt;bet this is not reinforced or even expected to be. &nbsp;We&#8217;re totally willing to  &gt;respect the formal night wear in the dining room and since we choose not to  &gt;dress for this occasion&#44; we would dine elsewhere. &nbsp;Not a problem. &nbsp;But&#44; to  &gt;expect everyone on the ship that chooses not to dress for formal dining  &gt;night to stay in their rooms for the rest of the evening is ridiculous!  &gt;Monica >Exactly. >&gt;Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the >&gt;formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any  &gt;of >&gt;the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)?  </p>
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<p>Yes&#44; it&#8217;s all part of the &quot;cruise experience&quot;!  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  &gt; formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  &gt; the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? > Actually&#44; several of the cruise lines print something like &quot;please be > respectful by remaining formally dressed in the ship&#8217;s other public > rooms all evening&quot; in their version of the ship&#8217;s daily news. &nbsp;It&#8217;s  &gt; and leave off the &quot;potatoes&quot; to e-mail)  </p>
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<p>During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  formal dining rooms during formal night or not. &nbsp;I am indeed attempting to  follow the dress code. &nbsp;That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve asked several questions (here&#44; on  line and to my TA) about dressing properly for the various dining rooms. &nbsp;We  will not be dressing in shorts&#44; spandex&#44; halter tops and torn t-shirts <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   We will be dressed respectfully anywhere we go..on or off the ship. &nbsp;We  aren&#8217;t party animals&#44; don&#8217;t like loud and crazy and prefer nicer  surroundings. &nbsp;There won&#8217;t be children with us. &nbsp;These are the reasons I  chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Monica&#44;  &gt; If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the  &gt; cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up  &gt; to dinner in sweats and swim wear.  &gt; I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the  &gt; theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and  &gt; you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  </p>
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<p> &gt; During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  &gt; sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  &gt; the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  &gt; everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  &gt; formal dining rooms during formal night or not. </p>
<p>It is pretty common knowledge so your research was not extensive  enough. The reality though is that some people do change out of formal  clothes after dinner. Before and during dinner most people are in  formal wear&#44; but as the evening goes on after dinner you would find a  growing number of people who have changed. Not a majority but a  signifigant minority.  &gt; chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  &gt; would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  &gt; Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I call this a request with a wink. If you are not wearing formal wear&#44;  if you wear country club casual in the Horizon Court on the formal  nights you would probably fit in well.  &#8212;  Charles </p>
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<p>He won&#8217;t need a jacket if you&#8217;re not going to formal night. If you&#8217;d  like to have a good meal&#44; he can wear a dark jacket with white shirt&#44;  tie &amp; dockers on formal night. there will be others dressed the same.  Don&#8217;t worry &#8211; just enjoy your cruise! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )  &#8212;  Bushwhacker  Bushwhacker&#8217;s Profile: 442  View this thread: 165556 </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt;Monica&#44; >If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the >cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up >to dinner in sweats and swim wear. </p>
<p>Would you agree&#44; that there is more to a cruise line than the type of  dress? For instance&#44; cruises without such formal night &quot;formalities&quot;  might have some other things that the poster would not like&#44; like youths  running amok. </p>
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<p>I hear you Monica&#44; but I find it a little hard to believe that your TA  didn&#8217;t tell you about Princess Lines culture. (The kinds of pax and what  people wear and when.) &nbsp;Likewise&#44; I am surprised that in reading general  information at Princess Website you missed  http://www.princess.com/onboard/answer/bring.html. &nbsp;Also&#44; as soon as you  got your booking number&#44; you could have logged in at:  https://book.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer/login.page and got more  details about your itinerary&#44; excursions (with the option to book  online) and information about Formal and Casual nights.  I am sure that if you wear a nice dress casual dress and you husband  wears a dress casual &nbsp;sport jacket&#44; shirt&#44; and tie with slacks &nbsp;you  won&#8217;t be turned &#8211; away &nbsp;from the shows&#44; casino or other public areas. &nbsp;  The Suggestion to be dressed in formal wear in public areas as the ones  I&#8217;ve mentioned&#44; is a suggestion. &nbsp;The cruise line is saying&#44; &#8216;mostly  everybody is making an effort to dress-up&#44; it would be nice if you did  too.&#8217; &nbsp;They are just trying to discourage folks from being waay too  relaxed on formal nights. &nbsp;They don&#8217;t want you to feel out of place.  If your husband absolutely loaths wearing a tie on vacation&#44; one of  those formal looking shirts with studs to close the collar. (Very  popular in L. A.) can do the trick with a dark sport coat and dark  slacks. &nbsp;You don&#8217;t have to run out and buy a brand new dress. &nbsp;Unless  you are traveling with friends&#44; no one will know if you recycle that  little black dress you wore to a wedding or similar function.  Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent yourself  for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did the whole  long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting together a look  for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I have in my closet. &nbsp;I  once did a black leather tux out of black Levis 501s&#44; black leather  chaps&#44; &nbsp;a leather jacket with a shawl collar&#44; a formal tux shirt and a  black leather bow tie. &nbsp;Separately they didn&#8217;t look formal at all. &nbsp;But  when I put them together and added a gold watch with diamond accents I  was cutting edge formal. &nbsp;Plus since it was a northern cruise&#44; I could  walk the promenade deck after dinner well protected from the elements. &nbsp;  Too extreme for you? &nbsp;That&#8217;s cool. &nbsp;Find your own way into enjoying  formal night. But&#44; enjoy it. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Brian  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt;During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  &gt;sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  &gt;the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  &gt;everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  &gt;formal dining rooms during formal night or not. &nbsp;I am indeed attempting to  &gt;follow the dress code. &nbsp;That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve asked several questions (here&#44; on  &gt;line and to my TA) about dressing properly for the various dining rooms. &nbsp;We  &gt;will not be dressing in shorts&#44; spandex&#44; halter tops and torn t-shirts <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt;We will be dressed respectfully anywhere we go..on or off the ship. &nbsp;We  &gt;aren&#8217;t party animals&#44; don&#8217;t like loud and crazy and prefer nicer  &gt;surroundings. &nbsp;There won&#8217;t be children with us. &nbsp;These are the reasons I  &gt;chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  &gt;would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  &gt;Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt;Monica >Monica&#44; >If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the >cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up >to dinner in sweats and swim wear. >I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the >theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and >you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  </p>
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<p>Grand Princess&#44; sailing out of Galveston to Western Caribbean in Jan. &nbsp;We  won&#8217;t be doing the two formal nights. &nbsp;This is what we bought for DH for the  various dining rooms. &nbsp;Docker type pants in two shades of khaki and one pair  of black and one navy. &nbsp;Eight shirts&#44; all collared&#8230;4 solid color polos&#44;  one pull over (collared) print and 3 long sleeve button down the front. &nbsp;One  pair brown &quot;semi dress&quot; dress shoes. &nbsp;Still need to find a black pair. &nbsp;At  this point we haven&#8217;t bought ties or a jacket. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not a tie person but  I&#8217;ll make him wear one if he needs to. &nbsp;Will he be breaking any rules  (implied or otherwise) if he didn&#8217;t wear a jacket?  Thanks&#44;  Monica </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Grand Princess&#44; sailing out of Galveston to Western Caribbean in Jan. &nbsp;We  &gt; won&#8217;t be doing the two formal nights. &nbsp;This is what we bought for DH for  the  &gt; various dining rooms. &nbsp;Docker type pants in two shades of khaki and one  pair  &gt; of black and one navy. &nbsp;Eight shirts&#44; all collared&#8230;4 solid color polos&#44;  &gt; one pull over (collared) print and 3 long sleeve button down the front.  One  &gt; pair brown &quot;semi dress&quot; dress shoes. &nbsp;Still need to find a black pair. &nbsp;At  &gt; this point we haven&#8217;t bought ties or a jacket. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not a tie person but  &gt; I&#8217;ll make him wear one if he needs to. &nbsp;Will he be breaking any rules  &gt; (implied or otherwise) if he didn&#8217;t wear a jacket?  &gt; Thanks&#44;  &gt; Monica </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not going to the dining room on formal nights&#44; then no&#44; you&#8217;re not  breaking any &quot;rules&quot;. </p>
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<p> &gt;If you&#8217;re not going to the dining room on formal nights&#44; then no&#44; you&#8217;re not  &gt;breaking any &quot;rules&quot;. </p>
<p>Hi Norm&#44;  Princess requests that you stick with the dress of the evening in all  public areas. &nbsp;Granted&#44; they do not enforce this.  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com </p>
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<p>Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? </p>
<p> &gt; Actually&#44; several of the cruise lines print something like &quot;please be  &gt; respectful by remaining formally dressed in the ship&#8217;s other public  &gt; rooms all evening&quot; in their version of the ship&#8217;s daily news. &nbsp;It&#8217;s </p>
<p>and leave off the &quot;potatoes&quot; to e-mail) </p>
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<p> &gt;Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  &gt;formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  &gt;the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? </p>
<p>Hi Monica&#44;  Correct&#44; Princess as well as some other cruise lines&#44; ask that you  stay dressed as requested in the public areas. &nbsp;The cruise lines  believe that this adds to the ambience onboard the ship.  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com </p>
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<p>That&#8217;s just ridiculous <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;This will be my first cruise but I&#8217;m willing to  bet this is not reinforced or even expected to be. &nbsp;We&#8217;re totally willing to  respect the formal night wear in the dining room and since we choose not to  dress for this occasion&#44; we would dine elsewhere. &nbsp;Not a problem. &nbsp;But&#44; to  expect everyone on the ship that chooses not to dress for formal dining  night to stay in their rooms for the rest of the evening is ridiculous!  Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Exactly. >Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the >formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any  of >the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)?  </p>
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<p>Monica&#44;  If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the  cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up  to dinner in sweats and swim wear.  I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the  theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and  you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  cut-offs&#44; sandals and &nbsp;an &quot;I&#8217;m with stupid&quot; &nbsp;t-shirt just think how out  of place you&#8217;d look. &nbsp;Think how &nbsp;out of place you&#8217;d feel.  On most ships you don&#8217;t have to break the bank for formal wear. &nbsp;Women  don&#8217;t have to go out and buy floor length couture&#44; a simple cocktail  dress will do. &nbsp;Men can rent a tux&#44; or wear a dark business suit&#44; shirt  and tie. There&#8217;s more flexibility for individual expression then you may  realize. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen African-American men and woman wearing really  smashing flowing caftan robes. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen Indian and some other women  look absolutely knock-out in a Sari.  I&#8217;ve worn a Black Suede Jacket paired with very dark charcoal pants set  off with a Red Silk Shirt and Black Silk Tie with open weave black  leather slip-ons for footwear.  Rather than viewing the suggestion as something being imposed upon you&#44;  look at it as a chance to play dress-up. &nbsp;Have fun with it! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt;That&#8217;s just ridiculous <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;This will be my first cruise but I&#8217;m willing to  &gt;bet this is not reinforced or even expected to be. &nbsp;We&#8217;re totally willing to  &gt;respect the formal night wear in the dining room and since we choose not to  &gt;dress for this occasion&#44; we would dine elsewhere. &nbsp;Not a problem. &nbsp;But&#44; to  &gt;expect everyone on the ship that chooses not to dress for formal dining  &gt;night to stay in their rooms for the rest of the evening is ridiculous!  &gt;Monica >Exactly. >&gt;Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the >&gt;formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any  &gt;of >&gt;the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)?  </p>
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<p>Yes&#44; it&#8217;s all part of the &quot;cruise experience&quot;!  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Is this suggesting that on formal nights&#44; even if you don&#8217;t attend the  &gt; formal dinners&#44; they want you to dress in formal attire if you&#8217;re in any of  &gt; the public areas (iow&#44; anyplace outside your room)? > Actually&#44; several of the cruise lines print something like &quot;please be > respectful by remaining formally dressed in the ship&#8217;s other public > rooms all evening&quot; in their version of the ship&#8217;s daily news. &nbsp;It&#8217;s  &gt; and leave off the &quot;potatoes&quot; to e-mail)  </p>
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<p>During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  formal dining rooms during formal night or not. &nbsp;I am indeed attempting to  follow the dress code. &nbsp;That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve asked several questions (here&#44; on  line and to my TA) about dressing properly for the various dining rooms. &nbsp;We  will not be dressing in shorts&#44; spandex&#44; halter tops and torn t-shirts <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   We will be dressed respectfully anywhere we go..on or off the ship. &nbsp;We  aren&#8217;t party animals&#44; don&#8217;t like loud and crazy and prefer nicer  surroundings. &nbsp;There won&#8217;t be children with us. &nbsp;These are the reasons I  chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Monica&#44;  &gt; If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the  &gt; cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up  &gt; to dinner in sweats and swim wear.  &gt; I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the  &gt; theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and  &gt; you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  </p>
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<p> &gt; During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  &gt; sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  &gt; the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  &gt; everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  &gt; formal dining rooms during formal night or not. </p>
<p>It is pretty common knowledge so your research was not extensive  enough. The reality though is that some people do change out of formal  clothes after dinner. Before and during dinner most people are in  formal wear&#44; but as the evening goes on after dinner you would find a  growing number of people who have changed. Not a majority but a  signifigant minority.  &gt; chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  &gt; would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  &gt; Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I call this a request with a wink. If you are not wearing formal wear&#44;  if you wear country club casual in the Horizon Court on the formal  nights you would probably fit in well.  &#8212;  Charles </p>
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<p>He won&#8217;t need a jacket if you&#8217;re not going to formal night. If you&#8217;d  like to have a good meal&#44; he can wear a dark jacket with white shirt&#44;  tie &amp; dockers on formal night. there will be others dressed the same.  Don&#8217;t worry &#8211; just enjoy your cruise! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )  &#8212;  Bushwhacker  Bushwhacker&#8217;s Profile: 442  View this thread: 165556 </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt;Monica&#44; >If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the >cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up >to dinner in sweats and swim wear. </p>
<p>Would you agree&#44; that there is more to a cruise line than the type of  dress? For instance&#44; cruises without such formal night &quot;formalities&quot;  might have some other things that the poster would not like&#44; like youths  running amok. </p>
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<p>I hear you Monica&#44; but I find it a little hard to believe that your TA  didn&#8217;t tell you about Princess Lines culture. (The kinds of pax and what  people wear and when.) &nbsp;Likewise&#44; I am surprised that in reading general  information at Princess Website you missed  http://www.princess.com/onboard/answer/bring.html. &nbsp;Also&#44; as soon as you  got your booking number&#44; you could have logged in at:  https://book.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer/login.page and got more  details about your itinerary&#44; excursions (with the option to book  online) and information about Formal and Casual nights.  I am sure that if you wear a nice dress casual dress and you husband  wears a dress casual &nbsp;sport jacket&#44; shirt&#44; and tie with slacks &nbsp;you  won&#8217;t be turned &#8211; away &nbsp;from the shows&#44; casino or other public areas. &nbsp;  The Suggestion to be dressed in formal wear in public areas as the ones  I&#8217;ve mentioned&#44; is a suggestion. &nbsp;The cruise line is saying&#44; &#8216;mostly  everybody is making an effort to dress-up&#44; it would be nice if you did  too.&#8217; &nbsp;They are just trying to discourage folks from being waay too  relaxed on formal nights. &nbsp;They don&#8217;t want you to feel out of place.  If your husband absolutely loaths wearing a tie on vacation&#44; one of  those formal looking shirts with studs to close the collar. (Very  popular in L. A.) can do the trick with a dark sport coat and dark  slacks. &nbsp;You don&#8217;t have to run out and buy a brand new dress. &nbsp;Unless  you are traveling with friends&#44; no one will know if you recycle that  little black dress you wore to a wedding or similar function.  Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent yourself  for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did the whole  long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting together a look  for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I have in my closet. &nbsp;I  once did a black leather tux out of black Levis 501s&#44; black leather  chaps&#44; &nbsp;a leather jacket with a shawl collar&#44; a formal tux shirt and a  black leather bow tie. &nbsp;Separately they didn&#8217;t look formal at all. &nbsp;But  when I put them together and added a gold watch with diamond accents I  was cutting edge formal. &nbsp;Plus since it was a northern cruise&#44; I could  walk the promenade deck after dinner well protected from the elements. &nbsp;  Too extreme for you? &nbsp;That&#8217;s cool. &nbsp;Find your own way into enjoying  formal night. But&#44; enjoy it. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Brian  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt;During my extensive research for a cruise line (the various cruise line  &gt;sites&#44; the many cruise forums and this newsgroup) and during my appt with  &gt;the travel agent&#44; never did I read or was I told that Princess requests that  &gt;everyone adhere to the formal wear evenings whether or not you dine in the  &gt;formal dining rooms during formal night or not. &nbsp;I am indeed attempting to  &gt;follow the dress code. &nbsp;That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve asked several questions (here&#44; on  &gt;line and to my TA) about dressing properly for the various dining rooms. &nbsp;We  &gt;will not be dressing in shorts&#44; spandex&#44; halter tops and torn t-shirts <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt;We will be dressed respectfully anywhere we go..on or off the ship. &nbsp;We  &gt;aren&#8217;t party animals&#44; don&#8217;t like loud and crazy and prefer nicer  &gt;surroundings. &nbsp;There won&#8217;t be children with us. &nbsp;These are the reasons I  &gt;chose Princess. &nbsp;Today is the FIRST time I&#8217;m reading that the cruise line  &gt;would like us to dress in formal wear (on formal night) to eat in the  &gt;Horizon court <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt;Monica >Monica&#44; >If you don&#8217;t like the culture of a given cruise line&#44; don&#8217;t book the >cruise line. &nbsp;Book one of those informal cruises where folks can show up >to dinner in sweats and swim wear. >I&#8217;m not totally into the formal night thing. &nbsp;But&#44; if everybody at: the >theater&#44; &nbsp;casino&#44; &nbsp;piano bar&#44; disco&#44; etc is dressed in formal wear and >you &nbsp;turn &#8211; up &nbsp;in spandex shorts and a halter top and hubby &nbsp;is wearing  </p>
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<p> &gt; Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent yourself  &gt; for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did the whole  &gt; long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting together a look  &gt; for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I have in my closet. &nbsp;I  &gt; once did a black leather tux out of black Levis 501s&#44; </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a normal definition of formal attire that would include  501&#8217;s. </p>
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<p>Hi Brian. &nbsp;Well&#44; I did read the first link during my research. &nbsp;Read it  again just now to see where I missed the info on dressing formal during the  formal evening even if you do not attend formal dining on those nights.  Guess I missed it again as I still don&#8217;t see it <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;Our TA didn&#8217;t mention  the dress code in question. &nbsp;Maybe she thought she might lose a booking? &nbsp;I  don&#8217;t know. &nbsp;She has mentioned&#44; when I inquire about proper attire&#44; that  this ship is leaving from Texas with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be  lots of men in western wear (including boots) in the dining rooms.  Also&#44; I have been on the second website you&#8217;ve linked to. Logged in with my  booking number and browsed the pages. &nbsp;Again&#44; I don&#8217;t see that it&#8217;s  requested we dress in formal wear even if we don&#8217;t do formal dining nights.  I guess we need to stop wasting bandwidth with this topic &lt;g&gt; &nbsp;I simply  wanted to know if what we chose for DH would be appropriate for dining in  all other areas except the formal dining rooms on formal night. &nbsp;He&#8217;s not  going to don a suite and tie and we won&#8217;t stay locked up in our cabin on  formal nights. &nbsp;Thanks for all the feedback. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be sure and report back  at the end of Jan (provided we haven&#8217;t been tossed overboard for looking  like heathens &lt;g&gt;)  Monica  ps&#8230;black 501&#8217;s for formal? hummmm &lt;lol&gt; </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I hear you Monica&#44; but I find it a little hard to believe that your TA  &gt; didn&#8217;t tell you about Princess Lines culture. (The kinds of pax and what  &gt; people wear and when.) &nbsp;Likewise&#44; I am surprised that in reading general  &gt; information at Princess Website you missed  &gt; http://www.princess.com/onboard/answer/bring.html. &nbsp;Also&#44; as soon as you  &gt; got your booking number&#44; you could have logged in at:  &gt; https://book.princess.com/cruisepersonalizer/login.page and got more  &gt; details about your itinerary&#44; excursions (with the option to book  &gt; online) and information about Formal and Casual nights.  </p>
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<p> &gt; inquire about proper attire&#44; that this ship is leaving from Texas  &gt; with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be lots of men in western  &gt; wear (including boots) in the dining rooms. </p>
<p>Monica&#44; I hope you enjoy the Grand Princess as much as I did. When is  your cruise?  I have cruised out of Texas a few times. &nbsp;You will see plenty of people  in jeans and western wear on this ship. &nbsp;They will also be some of the  nicest people you will ever cruise with.  Over the years&#44; I have noticed a change in the way people dress after  dinner. &nbsp;People change into more casual clothes. They go to the showroom  lounge&#44; the casino and to the bars. Is it right or wrong? &nbsp;I can not  say&#44; I will just say I have noticed it&#44; and it is happening more often.  You described what you will be wearing and it sounds fine to me. If you  feel uncomfortable&#44; then you can wear something else in the future.  BTW&#44; the swimming pools and hot tubs on Princess will be open&#44; I can not  imagine people going swimming in formal wear&#44; can you?  Enjoy your cruise&#44; Monica. Feel free to ignore the snobs in this group.  Most of the people you meet on cruises are actually nice people.  Becca &nbsp;&lt;&#8212;&#8211;enjoy your first cruise&#8230;  MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/  Miracle in May http://www.cruisemaster.com/miracle.htm  Canada &#8211; New England http://www.cruisemaster.com/carnivalFall.htm  Caribbean Princess http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm </p>
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<p>Thank you Becca! &nbsp;We leave out of Galveston on Jan 22&#8230;provided we can GET  there <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;Farmer&#8217;s Almanac has a treacherous weather in the forecast for  North East Texas that week. &nbsp;Here&#8217;s hoping Farmer&#8217;s is WRONG <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp;The further  south we travel it won&#8217;t be an issue&#44; but it certainly can be here at home.  We intend to dress tastefully wherever we go&#8230;do so the rest of our lives.  Can&#8217;t imagine not doing it on a cruise ship. &nbsp;Thanks for the kind words <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Monica </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> inquire about proper attire&#44; that this ship is leaving from Texas > with lots of Texas cowboys&#8230;there will be lots of men in western > wear (including boots) in the dining rooms.  </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->Over the years&#44; I have noticed a change in the way people dress after >dinner. &nbsp;People change into more casual clothes. They go to the showroom >lounge&#44; the casino and to the bars. Is it right or wrong? &nbsp;I can not  &gt;I&#8217;ve also noticed that there is a huge range of dining times on  &gt;Princess &#8212; you can easily eat your evening meal anytime  &gt;between 5:00pm and 10:00pm.  &gt;I&#8217;ve noticed that prior to 8:00pm&#44; lots of people are still casual&#44;  &gt;as they&#8217;re not yet ready for dinner&#44; and after 8:00pm lots of people  &gt;are again casual&#44; as they&#8217;ve already dined.  &gt;I own a tux and a dinner jacket&#44; and I rarely bother hauling them  &gt;on cruises any more. &nbsp; &#8230;maybe for New Year&#8217;s eve.  &gt;Just throw on a sports coat&#44; if needed.  &gt;Which&#44; of course&#44; brings me to the real point of my post  &gt;&#8211; for what sport are sports coats intended? </p>
<p>Originally&#44; Fox Hunt. &nbsp;They&#8217;ve been modified over the ages.  &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt; Think of it as a way you both can play dress-up and re-invent > yourself for the cruise. &nbsp;I&#8217;m an artist and while in the &#8217;60s I did > the whole long hair&#44; ripped denim thing. &nbsp;I rather enjoy putting > together a look for myself for formal night out of odds and ends I > have in my closet. &nbsp;I once did a black leather tux out of black Levis > 501s&#44;  &gt; I can&#8217;t imagine a normal definition of formal attire that would  &gt; include 501&#8217;s. </p>
<p>By themselves black Levis button fly jeans are indeed the very opposite  of formal. When worn underneath leather chaps&#44; us Artist types can  really push the envelope and be seen for the formal image we want to  project.  This was an extreme example of how you can take anything you&#8217;re  comfortable in and turn it into formal wear. &nbsp;The key was the total  leather ensemble&#44; of leather jacket (shawl collar resembling a 1920s tux  jacket)&#44; formal tux shirt&#44; leather bow tie and gold watch with diamond  accents. &nbsp;When you create an elegant picture out of Rock &#8216;n Roll and  Biker clothes the single elements become transformed by the whole.  Take the classic tux with tails. &nbsp;How does a gentleman define an image  that doesn&#8217;t confuse him with his butler or a waiter in a gourmet  upscale eatery? &nbsp; Accessories&#44; a great cut and a refined feeling about  himself&#44; an attitude. These things present the image. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not about  the tails&#44; it&#8217;s about the total look.  That&#8217;s the fun part about a vacation&#44; cruise&#44; gallery opening&#44; or  opening night at the opera. &nbsp;You get to play dress-up. Don&#8217;t just rent a  tux or buy couture that somebody else told you is dress-up. &nbsp;Create your  own image&#44; let the mirror be your guide. &nbsp;Transformation is kinda like  picking a persona for a game. &nbsp;It&#8217;s grown-up play time with clothes.  &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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<p> &gt; Enjoy your cruise&#44; Monica. Feel free to ignore the snobs in this group. </p>
<p>Why is it that anyone on this newsgroup who experesses enjoyment of  formal nights and encourages new cruisers (and veterans) to comply  with &nbsp;the suggested dress described&#44; well in advance&#44; by the  cruiselines&#44; gets classified as a snob? What&#8217;s that all about? Just as  some folks pick a cruise for a more casual atmosphere&#44; others might  specifically pick a cruise for its formality &#8211; not because they&#8217;re  snobs but because they enjoy dressing up&#44; dining elegantly&#44; and  spending time in an atmosphere of elegance shared by their fellow  revelers. For me&#44; I have so little opportunity to dress and dine  formally at home that dressing up on cruises is something I really&#44;  really enjoy. I&#8217;m a jeans and t-shirts kind of gal every day&#44; but I&#8217;m  really looking forward to my HAL cruise in March when I can dress up a  few nights and get caught up in the elegance of the evening I&#8217;ll share  with 2000 other people. I&#8217;ve also taken a Windjammer cruise where if  you showed up for dinner in anything other than a bathing suit or  shorts and a tee you were overdressed &#8211; loved that too. Formal nights  on cruises are a highlight for me and I&#8217;m sure for many others &#8211; it&#8217;s  too bad that folks who choose not to dress up might consider us snobs  for enjoying the spirit of the evening.  Really&#44; cruise ships are pretty lenient compared to some fancier  restaurants I&#8217;ve been to where gentlemen absolutely will not be seated  without a jacket and tie. The meals are worth the effort of dressing  up at these restaurants&#44; and I&#8217;ve found that formal night meals on  cruises are where you&#8217;ll find the fancier/better offerings. It may  just be worth your while to make the extra effort to dress  appropriately for the dining room so you can enjoy&#44; quite possibly&#44;  the best food of the week.  Do what you want &#8211; it&#8217;s your cruise. But&#44; you&#8217;re not alone on the  ship.  Lee </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->This was an extreme example of how you can take anything you&#8217;re >comfortable in and turn it into formal wear. &nbsp;The key was the total >leather ensemble&#44; of leather jacket (shawl collar resembling a 1920s tux >jacket)&#44; formal tux shirt&#44; leather bow tie and gold watch with diamond >accents. &nbsp;When you create an elegant picture out of Rock &#8216;n Roll and >Biker clothes the single elements become transformed by the whole.  &gt;You wouldn&#8217;t happen to have a photo of this&#44; would you? &nbsp;I&#8217;d love to  &gt;see it&#44; although your description made for a great image in &nbsp;my head.  &gt;Karen&#44; has always liked the tailored formal style of the &#8217;50s Doris  &gt;Day in her Rock Hudson movies.  &gt;http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews/pic.html </p>
<p>Sorry&#44; Karen&#44; as an artist I take photographs. &nbsp;I rarely am in them. &nbsp; I  did do some self portraits back in South Carolina when I was working on  my &nbsp;Masters. &nbsp;But none of the images include me dressed that way. &nbsp;Hey  Rene Z brought that whole Doris Day look back in &quot;Down With Love&quot;. &nbsp;Go  for it girl. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;  &nbsp;To &nbsp;email me&#44; Edit &quot;xt&quot; from my email address.  &nbsp; Brian M. Kochera &nbsp;  &nbsp;&quot;Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!&quot;  &nbsp;View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 </p>
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		<title>2003 accord door handle scratches&#8230;</title>
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<p>At first&#44; I thought my wife was clawing up the inside of our accords  door handles&#8230;  I detailed and waxed the car myself a few days ago&#44; and discovered  that the back part of our 2003 accords door handles&#8230; ALL FOUR&#8230; had  fine scratches on them&#8230;  I then thought &quot;We never use the back seats (no kids) my wife rarely  wears her wedding ring (encouraging herself to lose wieght) and I  never drive the thing&quot;  I can only assume that this area of the car gets wierd airflow&#44; and  air is circulating inside and fine debris stays in there scratching it  up.  As hard as this is to beleive&#44; take my corvette for example&#44; 1992 (for  sale by the way&#44; if interested). The tail lights get dirty right after  you wash them if you drive more than 100 yards&#8230; in the corvette  group&#44; people complain of this all the time&#44; it is because air somehow  comes back up the back of the vette and dirt and road grime can settle  in the light wells.  I was wondering if anyone knew some place that sold an item similar to  this:  http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=1.722 (these are for corvettes)  but for the honda accord&#8230;  thanks in advance! and email me if interested in my corvette! So red  (remove the NOSPAM) </p>
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<p>I noticed the same thing too but with an oil or tar like substance. &nbsp;It&#8217;s  not anything to complain about but I noticed it &#8230; </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; At first&#44; I thought my wife was clawing up the inside of our accords  &gt; door handles&#8230;  &gt; I detailed and waxed the car myself a few days ago&#44; and discovered  &gt; that the back part of our 2003 accords door handles&#8230; ALL FOUR&#8230; had  &gt; fine scratches on them&#8230;  &gt; I then thought &quot;We never use the back seats (no kids) my wife rarely  &gt; wears her wedding ring (encouraging herself to lose wieght) and I  &gt; never drive the thing&quot;  &gt; I can only assume that this area of the car gets wierd airflow&#44; and  &gt; air is circulating inside and fine debris stays in there scratching it  &gt; up.  &gt; As hard as this is to beleive&#44; take my corvette for example&#44; 1992 (for  &gt; sale by the way&#44; if interested). The tail lights get dirty right after  &gt; you wash them if you drive more than 100 yards&#8230; in the corvette  &gt; group&#44; people complain of this all the time&#44; it is because air somehow  &gt; comes back up the back of the vette and dirt and road grime can settle  &gt; in the light wells.  &gt; I was wondering if anyone knew some place that sold an item similar to  &gt; this:  &gt; http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=1.722 (these are for corvettes)  &gt; but for the honda accord&#8230;  &gt; thanks in advance! and email me if interested in my corvette! So red  &gt; (remove the NOSPAM) </p>
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		<title>Under 21 Priceline Hotel</title>
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 &#62; Hi-Do the airlines really care if you book a priceline ticket if you  &#62; are 20 instead of 21? 
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<p> &gt; Hi-Do the airlines really care if you book a priceline ticket if you  &gt; are 20 instead of 21? </p>
<p>As far as an airline is concerned&#44; if you&#8217;re 12 or older&#44; you&#8217;re an  adult.  &gt; Also&#44; I booked a hotel on priceline in DC&#44; will they ask for ID? &nbsp;or  &gt; is a credit card good enough? &nbsp;I didn&#8217;t realize you had to be 21  &gt; before booking&#8230; I&#8217;m 20 so I hope they won&#8217;t care. </p>
<p>Probably they won&#8217;t. You&#8217;re prepaid&#44; so they have their money.  &#8212;  _Deirdre &nbsp;web: http://deirdre.net &nbsp; &nbsp;blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/  &quot;Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!&quot; </p>
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<p>Hi-Do the airlines really care if you book a priceline ticket if you  are 20 instead of 21?  Also&#44; I booked a hotel on priceline in DC&#44; will they ask for ID? &nbsp;or  is a credit card good enough? &nbsp;I didn&#8217;t realize you had to be 21  before booking&#8230; I&#8217;m 20 so I hope they won&#8217;t care.  Thanks&#44;  Dan </p>
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<p> &gt;Hi-Do the airlines really care if you book a priceline ticket if you  &gt;are 20 instead of 21? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen the airlines care &#8211; they just want to be sure your ID matches  the ticket name.  &gt;Also&#44; I booked a hotel on priceline in DC&#44; will they ask for ID? &nbsp;or  &gt;is a credit card good enough? &nbsp;I didn&#8217;t realize you had to be 21  &gt;before booking&#8230; I&#8217;m 20 so I hope they won&#8217;t care. </p>
<p>You best call the hotel and see what their policy is. This also depends on local  law. I&#8217;ve almost always been asked to produce ID when checking in to a hotel.  It&#8217;s been a while since I passed 21 though&#8230; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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<p>Dan Kline extrapolated from data available&#8230;  &gt; Hi-Do the airlines really care if you book a priceline ticket if you  &gt; are 20 instead of 21?  &gt; Also&#44; I booked a hotel on priceline in DC&#44; will they ask for ID? &nbsp;or  &gt; is a credit card good enough? &nbsp;I didn&#8217;t realize you had to be 21  &gt; before booking&#8230; I&#8217;m 20 so I hope they won&#8217;t care.  &gt; Thanks&#44;  &gt; Dan </p>
<p>Sort of a rule&#8230;  The &quot;cheaper&quot; (down market) the hotel or chain is&#44; the more likely you&#8217;ll  be asked for an ID&#44; or translated&#44; &quot;On occasion at the Super 8&#44; but almost  never at the J. W. Marriott.&quot;  I was asked for my DL checking in to a reserved (with credit card) room in  a small city in the &quot;Big Thicket&quot; of East Texas (an area which in a  cultural sense can be compared to rural Applachia) the other day. &nbsp;Even  with occasional stays at &quot;Motel 6&quot; and the like (in small towns across the  US&#44; the choices can be minimal and when your profession takes you to small  towns&#44; you dance with them what brung&#8217;ya)&#44; this was the first time I recall  being asked for ID at a US hotel in a number of years. &nbsp;On the other hand&#44;  I&#8217;m an old geezer.  Europe&#8217;s different&#44; far away lands with inhabitants long accustomed to  producing documents for all sorts of natural functions such as sleeping. &nbsp;  Shucks&#44; in my youth&#44; one had to show ID or a passport at the Italian post  office to make a cheap long distance phone call&#44; and Alexandre Dumas&#8217;s  France had letters signed by high eminences which would get you arrested  and endungeoned within a few ticks of the bureaucratic clock.  Now&#44; does your girlfriend have a cheap imitation wedding ring&#44; an absolute  necessity back in the US of the 50s&#44; where young couples checking into  hotels were subjects of grave suspicion?  TMO </p>
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		<title>Princess&#039; 2005 Inside Passage!</title>
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Hi Everyone&#44;  I received this press release from Princess and thought it would be of  interest. &#160;If you have missed any of my news&#8217; postings&#44; they are  available on my web site. &#160;  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com  5/24/2004  PRINCESS&#8217; 2005 [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hi Everyone&#44;  I received this press release from Princess and thought it would be of  interest. &nbsp;If you have missed any of my news&#8217; postings&#44; they are  available on my web site. &nbsp;  Best regards&#44;  Ray  LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL  800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905  http://www.lighthousetravel.com  5/24/2004  PRINCESS&#8217; 2005 INSIDE PASSAGE PROGRAM FEATURES MORE SAILINGS ON WEST  COAST&#8217;S LARGEST AND MOST AMENITY-FILLED VESSELS  Convenient Roundtrip Voyages Offered from Seattle and San Francisco  Princess will offer additional Alaska Inside Passage cruising in 2005&#44;  with more sailings on its convenient roundtrip itinerary from Seattle  on the new Sapphire Princess and sister ship Diamond Princess &#8212; the  largest and most amenity-filled vessels to sail on the West Coast.  They are joined once again by Regal Princess&#8217; popular sailings from  San Francisco.  In total the line will offer 53 departures on three itineraries&#44; all  featuring the convenience of easily accessible home ports. These  roundtrip cruises complement Princess&#8217; other 2005 Alaska option&#44; the  &quot;Voyage of the Glaciers&quot; Gulf of Alaska itinerary&#44; available on four  ships. With the Inside Passage program&#44; passengers enjoy an easily  accessible U.S.-based discovery adventure that also offers the  opportunity to add a land tour to the Canadian Rockies or take  advantage of the many attractions in the ships&#8217; home ports with pre-  or post-cruise stays in Seattle or San Francisco.  &quot;The debut of Diamond Princess and Sapphire Princess last year really  made our Inside Passage cruises a phenomenal addition to our Alaska  program&#44;&quot; said Alan Buckelew&#44; president of Princess Cruises. &quot;This  year we&#8217;ve added even more sailings to make these cruises available  for additional passengers who want an easy and carefree way to enjoy  the best of the Inside Passage.&quot;  Diamond Princess and Sapphire Princess Sail From Seattle  Diamond Princess and Sapphire Princess return to Seattle to offer a  seven-day roundtrip voyages calling at Juneau&#44; Skagway&#44; Ketchikan and  Victoria&#44; plus cruise through the dramatic glaciers&#44; rock walls and  waterfalls of Tracy Arm and the twin Sawyer Glaciers. Diamond Princess  will offer 20 voyages on this itinerary departing on Saturdays between  May 7 and September 17&#44; 2005&#44; while Sapphire Princess will offer 19  voyages departing on Sundays&#44; beginning May 15 and continuing through  September 18.  Regal Princess from San Francisco  Regal Princess will offer 14 departures between May 8 and September 15  on a 10-day Inside Passage itinerary roundtrip from &quot;The City by the  Bay&#44;&quot; San Francisco. Passengers have a choice of itineraries that  feature calls at Victoria&#44; Juneau and two other scenic Alaska ports  that rotate between Ketchikan&#44; Sitka&#44; Skagway or Haines. All voyages  also offer premiere glacier viewing in Tracy Arm.  Canadian Rockies Cruisetours  Passengers who would like to add to their vacation have three Canadian  Rockies tour options designed to coordinate with Inside Passage  cruises from Seattle. Princess&#8217; escorted itineraries take guests to  the heart of these spectacular mountains with visits to Banff&#44; Jasper&#44;  Calgary and Kamloops&#44; along with other local highlights. The 12- and  13-night packages feature stays at the area&#8217;s premiere Fairmont resort  properties such as the Chateau Lake Louise&#44; Banff Springs Hotel and  Jasper Park Lodge.  The Seattle-based Diamond Princess and Sapphire Princess offer Inside  Passage passengers the opportunity to enjoy the Alaskan scenery from  the comfort of the West Coast&#8217;s largest and most amenity-filled  vessels. These &quot;gems&quot; of the Princess fleet feature such innovations  at themed main dining rooms &#8212; Italian&#44; Asian&#44; Southwestern and  steakhouse. Other popular features include the largest Internet Caf</p>
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  &#62; I&#8217;ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it&#8217;s the shitty transpoter  &#62; series.  &#62; Never had a problem&#44; and believe me&#44; I&#8217;m playing loud. Except for the POP  &#62; when turnng off.  &#62; &#8212; 
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<p>  &gt; I&#8217;ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it&#8217;s the shitty transpoter  &gt; series.  &gt; Never had a problem&#44; and believe me&#44; I&#8217;m playing loud. Except for the POP  &gt; when turnng off.  &gt; &#8212; </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken&#44; the trasporter series is a step up from the VX. </p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve got an SVT 4 through a hartke 410. And it&#8217;s the shitty transpoter  series.  Never had a problem&#44; and believe me&#44; I&#8217;m playing loud. Except for the POP  when turnng off.  &#8212;  Henry!  &quot;Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you&#8217;re playing. I had this  black guitar and I was going&#44; &#8216;Gem&#44; I can&#8217;t seem to dress with this  guitar&#8217;.&quot;  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> &gt; &gt; I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question: > &gt; &gt; How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > &gt; &gt; Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you  &gt; need > &gt; to > &gt; &gt; turn down. > &gt; &gt; Good luck! > &gt; &gt; Corey > &gt; I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta  &gt; go. > I > &gt; made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination.  The > 115 > &gt; was toast after 2 months. &nbsp;I dumped them all and built my own cabs  &gt; loaded > &gt; with with 4 eminince delta 10&#8217;s and a Kapp 15lf. &nbsp; Harke is fine if  you > play > &gt; in a wedding band&#44; but if your trying to put food on the table forget  &gt; it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger  &gt; My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly &#8211; no sound what so ever for  &gt; about 2 or 3 minutes. &nbsp;I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. &nbsp;I had  to  &gt; remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it&#44; but this only  &gt; worked when the room temp was below 80f. &nbsp;Even with the fan on it&#44; it  failed  &gt; a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. &nbsp;The speakers  were  &gt; just garbage in general &#8211; I found that individually the 10s were only  rated  &gt; for 75 watts each. &nbsp;The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. &nbsp;All of them had  a  &gt; tendancy to fart easily. &nbsp;Now granted my band plays pretty loud &#8211; if you  &gt; don&#8217;t need the volume they are probably fine. &nbsp;I replace the 3500 with an  &gt; svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a  &gt; kappa 15lf. &nbsp;Never had another problem with overheating &#8211; or undesirable  &gt; pops from my speakers.  </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> &gt; &gt; I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question: > &gt; &gt; How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > &gt; &gt; Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you  &gt; need > &gt; to > &gt; &gt; turn down. > &gt; &gt; Good luck! > &gt; &gt; Corey > &gt; I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta  &gt; go. > I > &gt; made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination.  The > 115 > &gt; was toast after 2 months. &nbsp;I dumped them all and built my own cabs  &gt; loaded > &gt; with with 4 eminince delta 10&#8217;s and a Kapp 15lf. &nbsp; Harke is fine if  you > play > &gt; in a wedding band&#44; but if your trying to put food on the table forget  &gt; it. > How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke > equipment? What kind of failures? TIA > Ed Cregger  &gt; My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly &#8211; no sound what so ever for  &gt; about 2 or 3 minutes. &nbsp;I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. &nbsp;I had  to  &gt; remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it&#44; but this only  &gt; worked when the room temp was below 80f. &nbsp;Even with the fan on it&#44; it  failed  &gt; a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. &nbsp;The speakers  were  &gt; just garbage in general &#8211; I found that individually the 10s were only  rated  &gt; for 75 watts each. &nbsp;The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. &nbsp;All of them had  a  &gt; tendancy to fart easily. &nbsp;Now granted my band plays pretty loud &#8211; if you  &gt; don&#8217;t need the volume they are probably fine. &nbsp;I replace the 3500 with an  &gt; svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a  &gt; kappa 15lf. &nbsp;Never had another problem with overheating &#8211; or undesirable  &gt; pops from my speakers. </p>
<p>Whenever I see a really thin&#44; compact power amp for bass&#44; I am suspicious of  its ability to handle the thermal loads that are encountered with normal  use. I wonder if the sensor that shuts it down was defective? Or if it was  &quot;out of adjustment&quot; if there was one. I doubt the latter. Most of those are  fixed at a certain temperature. Still&#44; the sensors have been known to be  defective from time to time.  My VX410 cost me $300. I forget if I paid shipping or not. Probably not. I  was going to sell it since I have since obtained some beefier enclosures  that I know will not burp or fart during normal high volume use. Then I turn  around and order an Agile V2 six string bass from Rondo the other day when  the price dipped to $199 and some change. I&#8217;ve been wanting an active six  string&#44; but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be able to justify an expensive one. Hence  the Agile.  Well&#44; now I just might need that Hartke to handle the upper end of the  register. It&#8217;s not eating anything and it won&#8217;t be worth any less five years  from now&#44; so I guess I&#8217;ll hold on to it. The VX410 has a power rating of 400  watts RMS. I suppose they rate the crossover and tweeter sufficiently to  absorb the rest of the power. I suppose&#8230;  I like Ampeg equipment myself.  Ed Cregger </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> &gt; I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question: > &gt; How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > &gt; Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you  need > to > &gt; turn down. > &gt; Good luck! > &gt; Corey > I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta  go.  &gt; I > made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. &nbsp;The  &gt; 115 > was toast after 2 months. &nbsp;I dumped them all and built my own cabs  loaded > with with 4 eminince delta 10&#8217;s and a Kapp 15lf. &nbsp; Harke is fine if you  &gt; play > in a wedding band&#44; but if your trying to put food on the table forget  it.  &gt; How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke  &gt; equipment? What kind of failures? TIA  &gt; Ed Cregger </p>
<p>My 3500 head had a tendacy just quit abrubtly &#8211; no sound what so ever for  about 2 or 3 minutes. &nbsp;I beleive it was do to in adiquate cooling. &nbsp;I had to  remove it from my rack and keep an additional fan on it&#44; but this only  worked when the room temp was below 80f. &nbsp;Even with the fan on it&#44; it failed  a couple of times. This was operating with a 4 ohm load. &nbsp;The speakers were  just garbage in general &#8211; I found that individually the 10s were only rated  for 75 watts each. &nbsp;The 15 was rated for 300 watts peak. &nbsp;All of them had a  tendancy to fart easily. &nbsp;Now granted my band plays pretty loud &#8211; if you  don&#8217;t need the volume they are probably fine. &nbsp;I replace the 3500 with an  svt-3 and built my own cabs and loaded them with eminence delta 10s and a  kappa 15lf. &nbsp;Never had another problem with overheating &#8211; or undesirable  pops from my speakers. </p>
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<p>  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question: > How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!? > Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you need  &gt; to > turn down. > Good luck! > Corey  &gt; I would not go so far as a whole new rig but the Hartke speaker gotta go.  I  &gt; made the same mistake with a vx410 and vx 115 cabinet combination. &nbsp;The  115  &gt; was toast after 2 months. &nbsp;I dumped them all and built my own cabs loaded  &gt; with with 4 eminince delta 10&#8217;s and a Kapp 15lf. &nbsp; Harke is fine if you  play  &gt; in a wedding band&#44; but if your trying to put food on the table forget it. </p>
<p>How so? Are you saying that you suffered failures with your Hartke  equipment? What kind of failures? TIA  Ed Cregger </p>
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<p>Aguilar uses custom Eminence &#8211; I ordered a replacement from the Aguilar web  site once&#44; and it had an eminence custom order sheet in the box when I  received it &#8211; obviously an oversight.  Aguilar sells its own replacement speakers via its web site&#44; and they are  reasonably priced and special tuned for your cabinet. &nbsp;I&#8217;d recommend them.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the  Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. &nbsp;Just figured that i would  ask.  &gt; Actually&#44; I&#8217;d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using&#44;  &gt; because those cabinets kick ass. I&#8217;d try to get the OEM driver direct  &gt; from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch&#44; but it  &gt; doesn&#8217;t have much midrange&#44; I really can&#8217;t say how it would sound&#44;  &gt; other than massive low end response.  </p>
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<p>I&#8217;d go here http://www.webervst.com/  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of  &gt; speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every  &gt; speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I  &gt; can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard  &gt; mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to  &gt; replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks.  &gt; Vinny  </p>
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<p> &gt;John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar  &gt;GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. &nbsp;Just figured that i would ask. </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Actually&#44; I&#8217;d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using&#44;  because those cabinets kick ass. I&#8217;d try to get the OEM driver direct  from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch&#44; but it  doesn&#8217;t have much midrange&#44; I really can&#8217;t say how it would sound&#44;  other than massive low end response. </p>
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<p>&gt; Actually&#44; I&#8217;d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using&#44;  &gt; because those cabinets kick ass. </p>
<p>John&#44; I know that Epifani uses Eminence. &nbsp;They say they&#8217;re custom-built&#44; but  no matter how &quot;custom&quot; they are&#44; they won&#8217;t vary drastically from the stock  designs. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t know about Aguilar. </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt;The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker.  &gt; Funny&#44; I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a  &gt; basket bending due to a drop&#44; at least not a drop the cabnet survived. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done it! And it wasn&#8217;t off the back of a truck either! So I know it  CAN happen! All it takes is enough misalignment until the voice  coil starts to rub&#8230;then doom soon follows.  Benj  &#8212;  Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off! </p>
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<p>I just found out that Aguilar uses eminence too. >John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the  Aguilar >GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. &nbsp;Just figured that i would  ask.  &gt; Actually&#44; I&#8217;d LOVE to know what Aguilar and Epifani are using&#44;  &gt; because those cabinets kick ass. I&#8217;d try to get the OEM driver direct  &gt; from Aguilar. You could use an Eminence Delta12LF in a pinch&#44; but it  &gt; doesn&#8217;t have much midrange&#44; I really can&#8217;t say how it would sound&#44;  &gt; other than massive low end response. </p>
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<p>John .. would you be able to recommend a driver replacement for the Aguilar  GS112 cab too?It is a 1 one twleve bass cab. &nbsp;Just figured that i would ask.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of >speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every >speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I >can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard >mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to >replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks. >Vinny  &gt; For those Hartke boxes&#44; I&#8217;d strongly suggest the Eminence  &gt; Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10&quot; driver is not super  &gt; efficient&#44; but will perform with a broad frequency response in that  &gt; box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab&#44;  &gt; since it has a fairly low resonant frequency&#44; and a low Vas factor&#44;  &gt; meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab.  &gt; Fane and RCF also make premium drivers&#44; and Carvin also sells  &gt; OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence).  &gt; Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency)&#44; a low Vas (how well it  &gt; produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or  &gt; higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s  &gt; of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use. </p>
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<p>I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question:  How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!?  Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you need to  turn down.  Good luck!  Corey  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of  &gt; speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every  &gt; speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I  &gt; can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard  &gt; mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to  &gt; replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks.  &gt; Vinny  </p>
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<p> &gt;I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of  &gt;speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every  &gt;speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I  &gt;can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard  &gt;mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to  &gt;replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks.  &gt;Vinny </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; For those Hartke boxes&#44; I&#8217;d strongly suggest the Eminence  Kappa Pro 15 and the Eminence BP-102. The 10&quot; driver is not super  efficient&#44; but will perform with a broad frequency response in that  box. The Kappa Pro 15 will also give the best lows in that Hartke cab&#44;  since it has a fairly low resonant frequency&#44; and a low Vas factor&#44;  meaning it will give good low end in a fairly compact cab.  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fane and RCF also make premium drivers&#44; and Carvin also sells  OEM drivers (which I think are Eminence).  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Look for a low Fs (resonant frequency)&#44; a low Vas (how well it  produces lows in a compact box) and reasonable efficiency (95dB or  higher if you can). A few dB extra efficiency will perform like 100s  of extra watts of amplifier power in actual use. </p>
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<p>Yup.  I&#8217;m impressed.  And it takes a lot to impress me in that area.  &#8212;  Henry!  &quot;Your shoes have got to match what colour guitar you&#8217;re playing. I had this  black guitar and I was going&#44; &#8216;Gem&#44; I can&#8217;t seem to dress with this  guitar&#8217;.&quot;  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I&#8217;m surprised no one has asked this question:  &gt; How the H3LL did you blow EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER?!?  &gt; Sounds like you need a whole new rig that plays MUCH louder&#44; or you need  to  &gt; turn down.  &gt; Good luck!  &gt; Corey > I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of > speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace  every > speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I > can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard > mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to > replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks. > Vinny  </p>
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<p>I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of  speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every  speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I  can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard  mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to  replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks.  Vinny </p>
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<p>I&#8217;m a former guitar player and those brands make pretty good guitar  amp speakers&#44; but I&#8217;m not sure about bass cab&#8230;.I know that Bag End  uses some pretty swift sounding speakers in their $$$$$$ cabinets&#44; but </p>
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<p> &gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide opinions on the best brands of  &gt; speakers in terms of durability&#44; sound and price. I need to replace every  &gt; speaker in a Hartke bass rig that I bought only a year and a half ago. I  &gt; can&#8217;t find the receipt and Hartke won&#8217;t do anything for me. I&#8217;ve heard  &gt; mention of Eminence&#44; Celestion&#44; and Peavey among others. I&#8217;m looking to  &gt; replace a 15&quot; and 4- 10&quot;s. Thanks. </p>
<p>Yeah&#44; Eminence and Celestion make some good stuff ($$$)&#44; Peavey  makes some good buys as well if you want to save some cash. Also  consider the speakers in the Carvin catalog. Decent prices. I&#8217;d say  get a cast frame speaker for the 15&quot; if possible (About $110)  from Carvin. The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL  you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop.  The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for  efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much  trashes the speaker. The 10&quot; ones are lighter and won&#8217;t be  quite as prone to damage&#44; but if you can afford it&#44; I&#8217;d  get the cast frames for those as well. &nbsp;OF course&#44; Peavey or  Carvin speakers won&#8217;t have the tone of the big bux cabs but there  is a REASON they cost big bux! Just price some of those drivers.  And let me say one more thing about drivers. I have a Fender  BXR 200. It came with the Fender 15&quot; Speaker. I also happened to  have a similar speaker which is a &quot;hollywood&quot; brand. It&#8217;s a West  Coast thing designed for sound sytems and VERY well made with  HUGE magnet. So I started swapping speakers just for fun. What I  found was that the Fender speaker had a lot of distortion in it  while the other speaker had a very pure &quot;hi fi&quot; kind of tone.  Now you might think that more pure speaker would always sound  better. But that was NOT the case! What I found was that the tone  you got with a certain speaker very much depended upon the bass you  put through it! For example my Ken Smith just came to life on Fender  driver&#44; but sounded thin and weak with the &quot;hi fi&quot; driver. Just the  opposite was true for my Modulus. The distortion of the Fender  Speaker gave it a really muddy tone&#44; while the sound system  driver&#44; made it ring like a bell! I guess the point I&#8217;m making  here is that choosing a brand of speaker for bass cabs has  a great deal to do with tone and ALSO depends on the bass you  intend to play through that cab. I guess this is why cab building  is still an &quot;art&quot;.  Benj  &#8212;  Due to SPAM innundation above address is turned off! </p>
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<p>&gt;The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL  &gt; you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop.  &gt; The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for  &gt; efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much  &gt; trashes the speaker. </p>
<p>Funny&#44; I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a  basket bending due to a drop&#44; at least not a drop the cabnet survived.  K </p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve used RCF 15&#8217;s in my Traynor box for 10 years with ZERO problems.  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; S. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text ->The stamped basket speakers will sound as good UNTIL > you happen to have an accident and the cab takes a small drop. > The weight of the magnet (which you want big and heavy for > efficiency) may bend a stamped basket in a fall. That pretty much > trashes the speaker.  &gt; Funny&#44; I have been in the music gig for 28 years and have never heard of a  &gt; basket bending due to a drop&#44; at least not a drop the cabnet survived.  &gt; K  </p>
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Help!  I was just wondering whether there was anyone in the UK planning a wedding  right now&#44; and wanted to discuss how to go about everything?  I have no clue where to start!  Jo 

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<p>Help!  I was just wondering whether there was anyone in the UK planning a wedding  right now&#44; and wanted to discuss how to go about everything?  I have no clue where to start!  Jo </p>
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<p>  &gt; Help!  &gt; I was just wondering whether there was anyone in the UK planning a wedding  &gt; right now&#44; and wanted to discuss how to go about everything?  &gt; I have no clue where to start! </p>
<p>Hi&#44; Jo.  You know those lovely glossy wedding magazines that you can buy in the  newsagents? The ones that try to get you to spend the price of a house on a  wedding? Buy a few of those and read them. Do this for a couple of months  and then you&#8217;ll have a much better idea of what you don&#8217;t want and will feel  much freer to pick out your wedding.  Seriously&#44; though&#44; start by working out what sort of wedding you want. Then  work out what sort of wedding you and your partner want. Some people never  get beyond this point <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Most people do&#44; however. Then you set a date&#44;  normally a year in advance but lots of people do it before or after then.  This will probably be governed by the venue you choose. You can&#8217;t have a  wedding on 8th January if you can&#8217;t find anywhere to get married and you  don&#8217;t want to get married on cup final day if you are certain your team is  going to be in said cup final.  In the glossy magazines you will find suggested timescales for things. These  aren&#8217;t rigid but they generally have a good reason behind them. For example&#44;  they usually say to buy your wedding rings three months before your wedding  day. That&#8217;s because it can take a couple of goes to find something you like  and there is often a 28 day lead time on ordering rings. The couple who  leave it until three weeks before the wedding might be lucky or they might  have to comprimise.  There are lots of resources to get suggestions from. Here&#44; for example.  http://www.confetti.co.uk/ and http://www.webweddings.co.uk are two good  websites. Gather lots of brochures and magazines but don&#8217;t let them  overwhelm you (I also suggest http://www.etiquettehell.com for how not to do  things). Treat finding out what you want as a spiral&#44; you get ever closer to  what you want as you make decisions.  Don&#8217;t get too bogged down in &#8216;etiquette&#8217;. Continue to appreciate that  although you are allowed a certain amount of self-indulgence in &#8216;your&#8217; day&#44;  it is also your partner&#8217;s day and the day of the people that will be  spending it with you. Etiquette is all about not upsetting people or making  them uncomfortable&#44; not about rigid protocol that must be adhered to.  Hosting a wedding is like hosting any other event&#44; make sure your guests are  comfortable.  That&#8217;s a start for you. And if you read this and decide you don&#8217;t want to do  it like that&#44; don&#8217;t.  Best wishes&#44;  Liz </p>
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<p> &gt; &gt; Help! > I was just wondering whether there was anyone in the UK planning a wedding > right now&#44; and wanted to discuss how to go about everything? > I have no clue where to start! </p>
<p>Hi&#44; Jo.  If you want to find all the services you need&#44; the best Wedding  Directory covering the UK is WedUK Wedding Services Directory at  http://www.weduk.com  Mal </p>
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<p>&gt;Sunny is the most fascinating person  &gt;on the newsgroup. &nbsp;I always read her comments. &nbsp;Ermalee is a very close  &gt;second as my favorite. &nbsp;How fortunate you are to include both of them  &gt;in your very interesting report. </p>
<p>And they are both more than deserving of the honor. &nbsp;I have met and spent time  with both of these delightful women&#44; and can&#8217;t wait for my next chance to meet  up with them again! </p>
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<p> &gt; Welcome home&#44; guys. Sure enjoyed hearing all about your trip full of friends&#44;  &gt; food and fun. Howie&#44; I&#8217;m thrilled you did the zip line adventure in the canopies  &gt; of Costa Rica. We did it in Puerto Vallarta and felt the same rush; I can&#8217;t  &gt; wait &#8217;til we can do it in CR where it all began. Eileen&#44; take care of those  &gt; new sparklers&#44; you lucky girl&#44; you!  &gt; Diana </p>
<p>Hey Artemis&#44;  Thanks. &nbsp;How neat that you&#44; Craig&#44; and the kids (I assume) zip lined in  Puerto Vallarta. &nbsp;And yes&#44; if y&#8217;awl go to Costa Rica&#44; it is a must do.  Actually&#44; given your adventurous spirits&#44; the four of you might be  interested in staying at the jungle resort&#44; Almonds and Corals Lodge&#44;  where I had my adventure. &nbsp;I got to speak with the owners&#44; who are  delightful folks. &nbsp;The price of a stay&#44; including daily breakfasts and  dinners&#44; is only $60 per person/night in high season&#44; and probably even  cheaper for the kids. &nbsp;The ambiance of the place is incredible and the  beach is awesome. &nbsp;In addition to zip lining&#44; there are numerous other  activities available. &nbsp;Website: www.almondsandcorals.com  Howie </p>
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<p> &gt; Welcome back to reality. Great review Howard!!. </p>
<p>Present reality sucks&#44; with 5 inches of snow on the ground and temps  hovering at 16 degrees.  &gt; We enjoyed meeting Eileen and yourself and hope one day we will cruise  &gt; together  &gt; Cant promise&#44; though&#44; staying up till the a.m. </p>
<p>No problem&#44; Sunny. I&#8217;ll simply begin my evening earlier than normal.  Don&#8217;t care much for those post dinner shows anyway.  Howie </p>
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<p> &gt;Actually&#44; given your adventurous spirits&#44; the four of you might be  &gt;interested in staying at the jungle resort&#44; Almonds and Corals Lodge&#44;  &gt;where I had my adventure. &nbsp;I got to speak with the owners&#44; who are  &gt;delightful folks. &nbsp;The price of a stay&#44; including daily breakfasts and  &gt;dinners&#44; is only $60 per person/night in high season&#44; and probably even  &gt;cheaper for the kids. &nbsp;The ambiance of the place is incredible and the  &gt;beach is awesome. &nbsp;In addition to zip lining&#44; there are numerous other  &gt;activities available. &nbsp;Website: www.almondsandcorals.com </p>
<p>As always&#44; the good doctor knows just what to prescribe. That place looks  awesome!! It is exactly the kind of trip we can easily fit into a short school  break w/ the air time so short. Thanks a million.  If you ever do the Mex Riv&#44; you will remember to go check out my PV report  &amp; get the scoop on their (two) canopy adventures:  http://www.dianaball.net/puerto_vallarata.htm &nbsp;It doesn&#8217;t sound like either  outfit in PV built as extensive a course as what you experienced in Costa  Rica. I definitely look forward to doing it again under less stressful circumstances&#8211;Maddie&#8217;s  situation caused him to suffer great fear for much of the course&#44; so I had  to rise to that challenge. (OTOH&#44; dealing w/ him was possibly the best thing  that could have happened. I confess&#44; the tiny margin on standing room on  the platforms spooked me!)  Diana </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; &nbsp;&gt; In what way did you find the pax unsophisticated and boring? > There are some HAL repeaters on the group that want to know. > Ben S.  &gt; Unsophisticated is walking around a ship all evening or&#44; for some&#44; all  &gt; week with one or more&#44; heavy&#44; cheap Mariner Society medallions hanging  &gt; around your neck. There are numerous other examples; but this will do.  &gt; Boring&#44; like cheesy&#44; is strictly in the eye of the beholder. </p>
<p>Underwhelming response.  Ben S. </p>
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<p> &gt; Underwhelming response. </p>
<p>Thank you&#44; Ben. Underwhelming was my aim. </p>
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<p>LOL&#44; you conveyed it very well Howard! &nbsp;I wish I could say I met all sorts of  interesting old salts on our one HAL cruise&#8230;.but frankly&#44; I think I had more  exotic travels under my belt than 99% of the pax on board. &nbsp;No doubt about it&#44;  HAL is a bit on the &quot;quiet&quot; side&#44; which has its place&#44; even for me.  Jeff  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt;Thank you&#44; Ben. Underwhelming was my aim.  </p>
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<p>I am sure that he did&#44; Charles&#44; but I don&#8217;t read everything that is posted.  &#8212;  DG in Cherry Hill&#44; NJ </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -> Danni and I kinda wondered where you and Eileen had gone but Danni  suggested > that you were away and&#44; as always&#44; she was right. > Next time you go please notify me so I won&#8217;t worry about you guys.  &gt; Howard posted quite a few times to r.t.c. about the three successive  &gt; cruises he and Eileen were going on right up to their departure.  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Charles  </p>
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<p> &gt;&gt; Welcome back to reality. Great review Howard!!.  &gt; Present reality sucks&#44; with 5 inches of snow on the ground and temps  &gt; hovering at 16 degrees. </p>
<p>Howie&#44;  Present reality might suck for you&#44; but it is even worse for those of us  who have been here all the time you were gone(VBG). This is not a good  week to come back from cruising.  Welcome back and say hi to Eileen for me!!  sue </p>
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<p> &gt; SUNSET at the beach was very&#44; very nice&#8230; </p>
<p>She wanted FREE booze&#44; that&#8217;s why.  The Not So Fine Art Of Google &#8211; Go To Top Of Thread  http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 </p>
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<p> &gt;Sunny SUNSET is a highly intelligent and warm human being&#44; who has led a truly  &gt;fascinating life. &nbsp;She is VERY articulate.. </p>
<p>LOL  Two words.  Web TV  &gt; and I was transfixed with her  &gt;stories of living in England during WWII and emigrating to the US as a  &gt;young woman. &nbsp;Bernie is a great guy&#44; in fantastic physical shape. </p>
<p>He must carry her cadre of binoculars.  The Not So Fine Art Of Google &#8211; Go To Top Of Thread  http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 </p>
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<p> &gt;I&#8217;m mostly a lurker &#8211; but I think Sunny is the most fascinating person  &gt;on the newsgroup. &nbsp; </p>
<p>LOL LOL LOL  &nbsp;Into the Dumbfile you go.  &lt;plonk&gt;  The Not So Fine Art Of Google &#8211; Go To Top Of Thread  http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 </p>
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<p> &gt;With all due respect&#44; I like HAL and do not appreciate being labeled as  &gt;unsophisticated and boring&#44; Awesome Dickead Howie. &nbsp;This kind of generality is unbecoming. &nbsp;The  &gt;comment (as well as much of the tone of the review) is supercilious and  &gt; &nbsp;condescending. My comments are&#44; of course&#44; those of a boor&#8230;a boring  &gt;boor! </p>
<p>He writes as he is.  The Not So Fine Art Of Google &#8211; Go To Top Of Thread  http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6 </p>
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<p> &gt; Danni and I kinda wondered where you and Eileen had gone but Danni suggested  &gt; that you were away and&#44; as always&#44; she was right.  &gt; Next time you go please notify me so I won&#8217;t worry about you guys. </p>
<p>Howard posted quite a few times to r.t.c. about the three successive  cruises he and Eileen were going on right up to their departure.  &#8212;  Charles </p>
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<p>Welcome home&#44; guys. Sure enjoyed hearing all about your trip full of friends&#44;  food and fun. Howie&#44; I&#8217;m thrilled you did the zip line adventure in the canopies  of Costa Rica. We did it in Puerto Vallarta and felt the same rush; I can&#8217;t  wait &#8217;til we can do it in CR where it all began. Eileen&#44; take care of those  new sparklers&#44; you lucky girl&#44; you!  Diana </p>
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<p>Welcome back to reality. Great review Howard!!.  We enjoyed meeting Eileen and yourself and hope one day we will cruise  together  Cant promise&#44; though&#44; staying up till the a.m.  S&#8217;nd I. </p>
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<p> &nbsp; &gt; In what way did you find the pax unsophisticated and boring?  &gt; There are some HAL repeaters on the group that want to know.  &gt; Ben S. </p>
<p>Unsophisticated is walking around a ship all evening or&#44; for some&#44; all  week with one or more&#44; heavy&#44; cheap Mariner Society medallions hanging  around your neck. There are numerous other examples; but this will do.  Boring&#44; like cheesy&#44; is strictly in the eye of the beholder. </p>
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<p>Thank you for a wonderful review&#44; Howard.  Danni and I kinda wondered where you and Eileen had gone but Danni suggested  that you were away and&#44; as always&#44; she was right.  Next time you go please notify me so I won&#8217;t worry about you guys.  Being where you were was better than where we were for several reasons.  First. your butt didn&#8217;t freeze every time you walked out the door&#44; and  second&#44; you didn&#8217;t have to deal with what was being written by some of this  newsgroup&#8217;s favorite flamers.  &#8212;  DG in Cherry Hill&#44; NJ </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; Sadly enough&#44; our winter vacation came to an end yesterday&#44; as we  &gt; returned to the icy mid-atlantic state of Delaware. &nbsp;Before settling  &gt; down to prepare my syllabi for the Spring semester&#44; which begins for me  &gt; on February 10&#44; I would like to relate the highlights of our 25 day  &gt; vacation.  &gt; We left Delaware on December 30&#44; more than ready for this trip to the  &gt; tropics&#44; and excited about seeing many old and new friends whom we knew  &gt; would be joining us at various stages of the trip. &nbsp;Our flight to  &gt; Lauderdale was smooth and uneventful and by 1 PM we were comfortably  &gt; settled in our accommodations at Embassy Suites.  &gt; Went to the pool to soak up some rays on this perfect 75 degree&#44; sunny  &gt; day&#44; before meeting our traveling companions for happy hour at 5:30. &nbsp;We  &gt; would be joined on the Carnival Legend New Years Cruise (our 42nd cruise  &gt; but the first over New Years) by four very dear friends. &nbsp;One of these  &gt; friends was our best friend&#44; Linda&#44; whom Eileen and I have known since  &gt; our first year in College (roughly 40 years). &nbsp;Linda was traveling with  &gt; her boyfriend Howie S. &nbsp;The other couple who would be joining us were  &gt; Jane (a former colleague from U. of Texas&#44; now at U. Mass Amherst) and  &gt; her husband Dan (a former graduate student of mine at UT). &nbsp;We have  &gt; cruised many times with Linda&#44; and Jane and Dan joined us on our Mercury  &gt; cruise last March.  &gt; Two other very old friends would be meeting us for Happy Hour. Ken (a  &gt; colleague from my very first post Ph.D. university appointment in  &gt; Psychology at Upsala College) and his wife Adine (one of the most  &gt; talented artists and coolest people that I have ever met). &nbsp;It had been  &gt; a very long time since we had seen Ken and Adine&#44; and the plan was to go  &gt; to their place in Hollywood for dinner&#44; when happy hour ended.  &gt; It was a perfect evening and a perfect beginning to our long vacation.  &gt; Legend New Years Cruise Dec 31 &#8211; Jan 8  &gt; We and our friends arrived at the ship about 11:30 AM. &nbsp;Prior to our  &gt; trip&#44; Eileen and I had agreed to be witnesses at the wedding of a young  &gt; couple we had met on Cruise Critic&#44; who were to be married right after  &gt; boarding at 1:30 PM. &nbsp;We left our friends and caught up with this  &gt; couple&#44; as well as a group of 15 other mostly very young people that we  &gt; had met on Cruise Critic&#44; who were also planning to attend the wedding.  &gt; After a rather long security delay&#44; we were the first to board the ship  &gt; at 1:00 PM. &nbsp;We went to our midship cat 8G room (this was our third  &gt; cruise on the Legend so I will not review the layout of the ship) and  &gt; quickly changed in order to get to the Chapel by 1:30. &nbsp;The wedding was  &gt; beautiful and it was great to finally meet everyone in this very cool  &gt; group of kids that we had been communicating with.  &gt; New Years Eve on the Carnival Legend was quite an experience. &nbsp;We dined  &gt; (late seating) with our friends. &nbsp;Our waiter and assistant waiter  &gt; provided superb and friendly service throughout the cruise. &nbsp;Dinner was  &gt; awesome (more on this later). &nbsp;After dinner&#44; we headed for the open lido  &gt; deck&#44; which was already packed with people. &nbsp;In fact&#44; in all of my 41  &gt; former cruises&#44; I have never encountered so many people on the open  &gt; decks at the same time. &nbsp;The Caribbean band was playing (more on this  &gt; later)&#44; the champagne was flowing in unlimited quantity&#44; and an enormous  &gt; screen high above the deck displayed a live video feed from Times Square  &gt; in NYC. &nbsp;The weather was PERFECT (and remained so for the next 24 days  &gt; of our vacation). &nbsp;Folks were partying with wild (but courteous)  &gt; abandon&#44; and the excitement in the air was magical. &nbsp;Midnight was  glorious.  &gt; At 1:00 AM&#44; we headed for the disco. &nbsp;Those of you who know me&#44; also  &gt; know that I have been to hundreds of dance clubs&#44; at sea and on land.  &gt; Never have I seen a club so packed. &nbsp;Got to bed about 3:30 AM.  &gt; Our New Years Cruise on the Legend was close to perfect for me.  &gt; Food  &gt; The cuisine&#44; which had been superb on my back to back cruises in 2002&#44;  &gt; could only be described as &quot;EXQUISITE&quot; by cruise ship standards. None of  &gt; the other major cruise lines (and I have been on them all numerous  &gt; times) even comes close to providing a comparable dining experience.  &gt; Scrumptious chocolate truffles&#44; souffl</p>
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Hi Kita!  &#62; Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot&#44; at random times&#44;  &#62; without signing in.. That&#8217;s what I used to do&#44; just pop in and keep them  &#62; always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent  &#62; visitors get [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hi Kita!  &gt; Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot&#44; at random times&#44;  &gt; without signing in.. That&#8217;s what I used to do&#44; just pop in and keep them  &gt; always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent  &gt; visitors get much better care. </p>
<p>Yup&#8230;..I like to leave them with no idea when I will be *flying* in. &nbsp;Sometimes tho I feel I  should arrive with my jaw wired shut!  &gt; My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went&#44; it was  &gt; a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the  &gt; staff on open house days&#44; or inspection weeks. The rest of the year&#44;  &gt; they were always understaffed.  &gt; My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I&#8217;m  &gt; sure) some temp (never recovered it). <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  (don&#8217;t bring any valuable  &gt; jewelry or stuff) </p>
<p>That sucks! &nbsp; I know what you mean about the valubles&#8230;&#8230;I told them I was leaving my most  valuable posession with them&#8230;.my mom.  &gt; But there are a lot of angels there&#44; too. G-d bless them&#44; it&#8217;s a hard job..  &gt; Make friends with the nursing aides&#44; they know Everything.. </p>
<p>Yeah&#44; it is a dam hard job&#8230;.not just anyone can do it&#8230;.not and do it well that is. &nbsp;I like  to bring little appreciation gifts for some of the folks working there&#8230;.I figger it couldn&#8217;t  hurt&#8230;..plus I really do appreciate what they do.  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thanks Kita! &nbsp;You got that right&#8230;..I just brought in my laundry off the line&#8230;.how easy it  is with 2 footsies. &nbsp;I had spent weeks figgering out how I could manage to hang my own laundry  from the wheelchair&#8230;.it was quite an ordeal&#8230;but I did it. &nbsp;Hell it&#8217;s not like I was busy  doing anything else &lt;smirk&gt; &nbsp;but I hope to NEVER have that experience again!!  you&#8217;re about to be an old fart ain&#8217;t cha!! &nbsp;Heehee &nbsp; you go girl!  Ripley / Pinky  &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Thanks for the floating wishes!! &nbsp;:-)  I&#8217;d do just about anything to make things right for my sweet little mom&#8230;&#8230;except smoke that  is. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be glad when the initial move is done.  At least I won&#8217;t have to do her hair again&#8230;..last time I washed it &amp; cut it&#8230;&#8230;.I dang  near flipped her in the sink&#8230;..the stoopid chair would not co-operate&#44; and in the process I  got her soaked and lots of hair down her back!! &nbsp;She took it well&#8230;..I just laughed allot and  honked her nose!! &nbsp;She&#8217;s grrreat!  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Ripley?  &gt; HELLO&#44; RIPLEY!?  &gt; COME IN RIPLEY!  &gt; YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!!  &gt; HELLO?  &gt; She seems&#8230;kind of upset about something.  &gt; If only she could come out of her shell&#44; just a little bit&#44; and express  &gt; herself&#8230;  &gt; Sigh&#8230;  &gt; All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful&#44; and  &gt; my hat&#8217;s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you&#8217;re going thru&#44;  &gt; and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it. </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
<p>Oh&#44; Ripley&#44; I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for &nbsp;you! &nbsp;I can&#8217;t  imagine what you&#8217;ve been going through nor how it is for you now. &nbsp;I  only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care  of her as long as necessary&#44; and then certainly would want the best care  for her when she was beyond my help. &nbsp;My grandmother is failing fast  now&#44; and we&#8217;re all grieving over how to handle that. &nbsp;  My thoughts and feelings are with you&#44; Ripley. &nbsp;Try to hang on and know  that you &nbsp;have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that  care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible.  *Huge Hugs*  &#8212;  &nbsp; &nbsp;BinnieBee &#8211; &nbsp;A Proud Old Fogie!  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;%%  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(&#8212;-)  &nbsp; &nbsp; ( &gt;__&lt; )  &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^ ~~ ^^  &nbsp; &nbsp; ~f3as3~  Quit since 11/01/2001  http://binniebee.com  http://www.cyberdigs.com </p>
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<p>Hi Sally&#8230;.  &gt; ((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) &nbsp;Gawd&#44; it sounds like you&#8217;re going  &gt; thru hell right now! &nbsp;I&#8217;m not going to stick up for the place she&#8217;s at  &gt; except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she&#8217;s  &gt; taking (coumadin&#44; etc)&#8230;but I&#8217;d be totally pissed off if this were MY  &gt; mother&#44; too. &nbsp;I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. </p>
<p>Ya&#44; she is on a blood thinner&#8230;.could be that&#8230;..it&#8217;s a hard thing to see&#44; for sure.  &gt; As for &nbsp;the incontinence pads&#44; if you&#8217;re getting the generic brands&#44; they  &gt; usually are &#8216;crap&#8217; but the only way you can find out is to try different  &gt; kinds. &nbsp;Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn&#8217;t the best choice is  &gt; all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) </p>
<p>No&#44; I pay for em&#8230;&#8230;I am always suspicious when they want the ones that will *hold  NH&#8230;.medicaid will pay for the diapers and her over the counter meds too!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; I guess I&#8217;m &nbsp;trying to look at the positive side&#44; but like I said&#44; if this were MY  &gt; mother&#44; I&#8217;d be more than just a little upset. &nbsp;That alzheimers facility  &gt; that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I  &gt; quit it after just a few months!). &nbsp;They changed the residents every TWO  &gt; hours. &nbsp;It didn&#8217;t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap  &gt; in their pants&#8230;.if it wasn&#8217;t their time to be changed&#44; I saw more than  &gt; one caregiver who looked the other way. &nbsp;Pissed me off to think that  &gt; they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. &nbsp;I say &#8216;what  &gt; goes around&#44; comes around&#8217;&#8230;. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I try to look at the positive side too. &nbsp;Welp&#8230;.if it&#8217;s good for the goose&#8230;.it&#8217;s good for  the gander&#8230;..I think that anyone who can do that should be forced to sit in their own for an  hour or two or four!! &nbsp; Bastards!! &nbsp;oops&#8230;&#8230; &nbsp;:-(  &gt; Restraints being used when not needed?? &nbsp;They shouldn&#8217;t use them at all  &gt; without a doctors order. &nbsp;At least that&#8217;s a state LAW here in Oregon.  &gt; made&#8230;..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! &nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to upset you any </p>
<p>more than you are already&#44; Rip&#8230;.but  &gt; sounds to me like it&#8217;s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that  &gt; place. </p>
<p>No&#44; no&#8230;.that is stuff going on in the NH that is right here in town. &nbsp;The one my aunts think  grrrrrr&#8230;.gggrrrrrrrrrrr &nbsp; somebody stop me!!   &nbsp;Don&#8217;t ever judge a book by it&#8217;s cover&#8230;..but ya gotta keep in  &gt; mind that we&#8217;re not all bad eggs! &nbsp;Cameras in every room of facility  &gt; should be a law but it&#8217;s an expense that most facilities won&#8217;t deal with  &gt; unless something drastic happens. (We&#8217;ve finally got more security  &gt; cameras up in the place that I work&#8230;.NOT because of abuse or neglect  &gt; tho. &nbsp;Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the  &gt; elderly folks.) &nbsp;If I&#8217;m ever able to open the adult foster home that I  &gt; would LOVE to do&#44; I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate for a minute when it comes to  &gt; cameras in the place. </p>
<p>You know there&#8217;s a school that&#8217;s been closed here that would be perfect. &nbsp;They just decided to  build a new one&#8230;&#8230;sometimes&#44; when I ride by the buildings I picture a home like  &gt; It&#8217;s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right  &gt; now. &nbsp;I would hate to be in your shoes&#44; lady. &nbsp;One of my residents is  &gt; finally moving into an adult foster home this week. &nbsp;Her family wanted  &gt; to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are  &gt; other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and  &gt; she&#8217;s still mentally &#8216;with it&#8217;. &nbsp;I know that if they put her into a NH&#44; </p>
<p> living facilities are taking in those that really need NH care&#8230;&#8230;.and then it&#8217;s tough  noggies for the lo. &nbsp; money always talks.  &gt; Take good care&#44; Ripley! &nbsp;Get the move over with&#8230;.then sit back for a  &gt; bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed&#8230;what good would  &gt; that do your Mom? </p>
<p>Thanks Sally&#8230;..no smoking&#8230;.lots of swearing and pacing and willing the phone to ring and  nervous eating and walks&#44; but no to smoking dammit!!  I finally got sick of waiting today and called&#8230;.there is a paperwork holdup&#8230;..someone  didn&#8217;t do the evaluation or didn&#8217;t put the paper thru&#8230;&#8230;they can&#8217;t seem to figger out  which! &nbsp;OK&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;ll just wait&#8230;..everything else is done&#8230;&#8230;they just read the PPD &nbsp;test  Friday&#8230;negative&#8230;&#8230;.so once they pull their fingers out of their butts it&#8217;ll be a  go&#8230;..till then I will eat evrything that can&#8217;t run away. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp; just call me fatlizzy&#8230;..  burp&#8230;..pfffttt  &gt; BIG hugs to both of ya!  &gt; Sally (hoping you&#8217;re not pissed off about this post) </p>
<p>Hell no!! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;don&#8217;t want to try and piss in the pot blindfolded!! &nbsp; I&#8217;ve got a bid on a  Halloween costume&#8230;..  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&#038;item=2953053468&#038;categor&#8230;  mom is &nbsp;and fool with all the old folks &nbsp;and try to bite their necks!! &nbsp; What ever happened to  the transylvania twist!!!!! &nbsp; &nbsp;LOL  Ripley / off to sharpen fangs&#8230;.   &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>  &gt; I hope it all goes really well for your mom&#8230;and you <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Hey Maddie&#8230;&#8230;if it goes well for mom&#44; then I&#8217;m all set!!  Thanks&#8230;  Ripley  &gt; &#8212;&#8211;  &gt; Maddie&#44; 5 months </p>
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<p> &gt; &gt;roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Hey Ripley.  &gt; Just thinkin&#8217; o&#8217; ya <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; steveb </p>
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<p>Thanks Dawn&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;m an only child&#8230;.so she&#8217;s stuck with me! &nbsp; I have my moments!  Ripley </p>
<p> &gt; Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. &nbsp;I hope  &gt; the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly.  &gt; Dawn  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.  &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
<p>&#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Hi BB&#8230;.. </p>
<p> &gt; Oh&#44; Ripley&#44; I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for &nbsp;you! &nbsp;I can&#8217;t  &gt; imagine what you&#8217;ve been going through nor how it is for you now. &nbsp;I  &gt; only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care  &gt; of her as long as necessary&#44; and then certainly would want the best care  &gt; for her when she was beyond my help. &nbsp;My grandmother is failing fast  &gt; now&#44; and we&#8217;re all grieving over how to handle that. </p>
<p> &gt; My thoughts and feelings are with you&#44; Ripley. &nbsp;Try to hang on and know  &gt; that you &nbsp;have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that  &gt; care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible. </p>
<p>Thanks BB&#8230; &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;I&#8217;d like to get it over with&#8230;.but there&#8217;s been a holdup with the all  important paperwork&#8230;..not at my end.&lt;smirk&gt;&#8230;.I&#8217;ve done mine&#8230;.so far as they will let me.  One day at a time&#8230;&#8230;.well wishes coming back atcha with your gm.  Ripley / anxious&#8230;.but holdin  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; *Huge Hugs*  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;BinnieBee &#8211; &nbsp;A Proud Old Fogie!  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;%%  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(&#8212;-)  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( &gt;__&lt; )  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^ ~~ ^^  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ~f3as3~  &gt; Quit since 11/01/2001  &gt; http://binniebee.com  &gt; http://www.cyberdigs.com </p>
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<p> &gt;roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!! </p>
<p>Hey Ripley.  Just thinkin&#8217; o&#8217; ya <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   steveb </p>
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<p>((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) &nbsp;Gawd&#44; it sounds like you&#8217;re going  thru hell right now! &nbsp;I&#8217;m not going to stick up for the place she&#8217;s at  except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she&#8217;s  taking (coumadin&#44; etc)&#8230;but I&#8217;d be totally pissed off if this were MY  mother&#44; too. &nbsp;I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. &nbsp;As for  the incontinence pads&#44; if you&#8217;re getting the generic brands&#44; they  usually are &#8216;crap&#8217; but the only way you can find out is to try different  kinds. &nbsp;Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn&#8217;t the best choice is  all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) I guess I&#8217;m  trying to look at the positive side&#44; but like I said&#44; if this were MY  mother&#44; I&#8217;d be more than just a little upset. &nbsp;That alzheimers facility  that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I  quit it after just a few months!). &nbsp;They changed the residents every TWO  hours. &nbsp;It didn&#8217;t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap  in their pants&#8230;.if it wasn&#8217;t their time to be changed&#44; I saw more than  one caregiver who looked the other way. &nbsp;Pissed me off to think that  they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. &nbsp;I say &#8216;what  goes around&#44; comes around&#8217;&#8230;. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   Restraints being used when not needed?? &nbsp;They shouldn&#8217;t use them at all  without a doctors order. &nbsp;At least that&#8217;s a state LAW here in Oregon.  made&#8230;..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!!  I don&#8217;t want to upset you any more than you are already&#44; Rip&#8230;.but  sounds to me like it&#8217;s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that  place. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t ever judge a book by it&#8217;s cover&#8230;..but ya gotta keep in  mind that we&#8217;re not all bad eggs! &nbsp;Cameras in every room of facility  should be a law but it&#8217;s an expense that most facilities won&#8217;t deal with  unless something drastic happens. (We&#8217;ve finally got more security  cameras up in the place that I work&#8230;.NOT because of abuse or neglect  tho. &nbsp;Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the  elderly folks.) &nbsp;If I&#8217;m ever able to open the adult foster home that I  would LOVE to do&#44; I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate for a minute when it comes to  cameras in the place.  It&#8217;s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right  now. &nbsp;I would hate to be in your shoes&#44; lady. &nbsp;One of my residents is  finally moving into an adult foster home this week. &nbsp;Her family wanted  to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are  other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and  she&#8217;s still mentally &#8216;with it&#8217;. &nbsp;I know that if they put her into a NH&#44;  Take good care&#44; Ripley! &nbsp;Get the move over with&#8230;.then sit back for a  bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed&#8230;what good would  that do your Mom?  BIG hugs to both of ya!  Sally (hoping you&#8217;re not pissed off about this post)  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).  </p>
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<p>Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. &nbsp;I hope  the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly.  Dawn  &#8212;  Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.  Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Ripley:  &gt;Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my  &gt;Alzheimers mom has an  &gt;opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here  &gt;comes the  &gt;rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how  &gt;she will  &gt;react&#8230;..gawd! </p>
<p>&#8230;  I hope it all goes really well for your mom&#8230;and you <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;&#8211;  Maddie&#44; 5 months </p>
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<p>&quot;Ripley&quot; wrote  OK&#8230;why the hell  &gt; doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! &#8230;..Fuck em!!  &gt;&#8230; Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!!&#8230;.OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;&#8230;I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move &#8230;.dammit!&#8230;.I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much &#8230;.like a fly on </p>
<p>Ripley?  HELLO&#44; RIPLEY!?  COME IN RIPLEY!  YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!!  HELLO?  She seems&#8230;kind of upset about something.  If only she could come out of her shell&#44; just a little bit&#44; and express  herself&#8230;  Sigh&#8230;  All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful&#44; and  my hat&#8217;s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you&#8217;re going thru&#44;  and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it. </p>
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<p>Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot&#44; at random times&#44;  without signing in.. That&#8217;s what I used to do&#44; just pop in and keep them  always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent  visitors get much better care.  My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went&#44; it was  a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the  staff on open house days&#44; or inspection weeks. The rest of the year&#44;  they were always understaffed.  My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I&#8217;m  sure) some temp (never recovered it). <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  (don&#8217;t bring any valuable  jewelry or stuff)  But there are a lot of angels there&#44; too. G-d bless them&#44; it&#8217;s a hard job..  Make friends with the nursing aides&#44; they know Everything..  <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).  </p>
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<p>Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  react&#8230;..gawd!  For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  react&#8230;..gawd!  For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot&#44; at random times&#44;  without signing in.. That&#8217;s what I used to do&#44; just pop in and keep them  always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent  visitors get much better care.  My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went&#44; it was  a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the  staff on open house days&#44; or inspection weeks. The rest of the year&#44;  they were always understaffed.  My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I&#8217;m  sure) some temp (never recovered it). <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  (don&#8217;t bring any valuable  jewelry or stuff)  But there are a lot of angels there&#44; too. G-d bless them&#44; it&#8217;s a hard job..  Make friends with the nursing aides&#44; they know Everything..  <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).  </p>
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<p>&quot;Ripley&quot; wrote  OK&#8230;why the hell  &gt; doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day and let it rip!!!! &#8230;..Fuck em!!  &gt;&#8230; Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!!&#8230;.OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;&#8230;I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move &#8230;.dammit!&#8230;.I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much &#8230;.like a fly on </p>
<p>Ripley?  HELLO&#44; RIPLEY!?  COME IN RIPLEY!  YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!!  HELLO?  She seems&#8230;kind of upset about something.  If only she could come out of her shell&#44; just a little bit&#44; and express  herself&#8230;  Sigh&#8230;  All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful&#44; and  my hat&#8217;s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you&#8217;re going thru&#44;  and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it. </p>
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<p>Hi Kita!  &gt; Good luck with the new place! Be sure to visit a lot&#44; at random times&#44;  &gt; without signing in.. That&#8217;s what I used to do&#44; just pop in and keep them  &gt; always on their toes. The aides always told me that those with frequent  &gt; visitors get much better care. </p>
<p>Yup&#8230;..I like to leave them with no idea when I will be *flying* in. &nbsp;Sometimes tho I feel I  should arrive with my jaw wired shut!  &gt; My gparents spent their lifesavings on the place where they went&#44; it was  &gt; a really good place. But stuff still went on there. Like they max the  &gt; staff on open house days&#44; or inspection weeks. The rest of the year&#44;  &gt; they were always understaffed.  &gt; My gmom had her wedding band stolen (after 55 years of marriage) by (I&#8217;m  &gt; sure) some temp (never recovered it). <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  (don&#8217;t bring any valuable  &gt; jewelry or stuff) </p>
<p>That sucks! &nbsp; I know what you mean about the valubles&#8230;&#8230;I told them I was leaving my most  valuable posession with them&#8230;.my mom.  &gt; But there are a lot of angels there&#44; too. G-d bless them&#44; it&#8217;s a hard job..  &gt; Make friends with the nursing aides&#44; they know Everything.. </p>
<p>Yeah&#44; it is a dam hard job&#8230;.not just anyone can do it&#8230;.not and do it well that is. &nbsp;I like  to bring little appreciation gifts for some of the folks working there&#8230;.I figger it couldn&#8217;t  hurt&#8230;..plus I really do appreciate what they do.  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Yayyyyyyyyy on getting back to biped! <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thanks Kita! &nbsp;You got that right&#8230;..I just brought in my laundry off the line&#8230;.how easy it  is with 2 footsies. &nbsp;I had spent weeks figgering out how I could manage to hang my own laundry  from the wheelchair&#8230;.it was quite an ordeal&#8230;but I did it. &nbsp;Hell it&#8217;s not like I was busy  doing anything else &lt;smirk&gt; &nbsp;but I hope to NEVER have that experience again!!  you&#8217;re about to be an old fart ain&#8217;t cha!! &nbsp;Heehee &nbsp; you go girl!  Ripley / Pinky  &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Thanks for the floating wishes!! &nbsp;:-)  I&#8217;d do just about anything to make things right for my sweet little mom&#8230;&#8230;except smoke that  is. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll be glad when the initial move is done.  At least I won&#8217;t have to do her hair again&#8230;..last time I washed it &amp; cut it&#8230;&#8230;.I dang  near flipped her in the sink&#8230;..the stoopid chair would not co-operate&#44; and in the process I  got her soaked and lots of hair down her back!! &nbsp;She took it well&#8230;..I just laughed allot and  honked her nose!! &nbsp;She&#8217;s grrreat!  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Ripley?  &gt; HELLO&#44; RIPLEY!?  &gt; COME IN RIPLEY!  &gt; YOUR TRANSMISSION IS BREAKING UP!!  &gt; HELLO?  &gt; She seems&#8230;kind of upset about something.  &gt; If only she could come out of her shell&#44; just a little bit&#44; and express  &gt; herself&#8230;  &gt; Sigh&#8230;  &gt; All good wishes floating your way. I know it must be terribly stressful&#44; and  &gt; my hat&#8217;s off to you. Takes plenty of guts to endure what you&#8217;re going thru&#44;  &gt; and I admire the hell out of anyone who can manage it. </p>
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<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
<p>Oh&#44; Ripley&#44; I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for &nbsp;you! &nbsp;I can&#8217;t  imagine what you&#8217;ve been going through nor how it is for you now. &nbsp;I  only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care  of her as long as necessary&#44; and then certainly would want the best care  for her when she was beyond my help. &nbsp;My grandmother is failing fast  now&#44; and we&#8217;re all grieving over how to handle that. &nbsp;  My thoughts and feelings are with you&#44; Ripley. &nbsp;Try to hang on and know  that you &nbsp;have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that  care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible.  *Huge Hugs*  &#8212;  &nbsp; &nbsp;BinnieBee &#8211; &nbsp;A Proud Old Fogie!  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;%%  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(&#8212;-)  &nbsp; &nbsp; ( &gt;__&lt; )  &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^ ~~ ^^  &nbsp; &nbsp; ~f3as3~  Quit since 11/01/2001  http://binniebee.com  http://www.cyberdigs.com </p>
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<p>Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. &nbsp;I hope  the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly.  Dawn  &#8212;  Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.  Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>Ripley:  &gt;Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my  &gt;Alzheimers mom has an  &gt;opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here  &gt;comes the  &gt;rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how  &gt;she will  &gt;react&#8230;..gawd! </p>
<p>&#8230;  I hope it all goes really well for your mom&#8230;and you <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8212;&#8211;  Maddie&#44; 5 months </p>
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<p> &gt;roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!! </p>
<p>Hey Ripley.  Just thinkin&#8217; o&#8217; ya <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   steveb </p>
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<p>((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) &nbsp;Gawd&#44; it sounds like you&#8217;re going  thru hell right now! &nbsp;I&#8217;m not going to stick up for the place she&#8217;s at  except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she&#8217;s  taking (coumadin&#44; etc)&#8230;but I&#8217;d be totally pissed off if this were MY  mother&#44; too. &nbsp;I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. &nbsp;As for  the incontinence pads&#44; if you&#8217;re getting the generic brands&#44; they  usually are &#8216;crap&#8217; but the only way you can find out is to try different  kinds. &nbsp;Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn&#8217;t the best choice is  all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) I guess I&#8217;m  trying to look at the positive side&#44; but like I said&#44; if this were MY  mother&#44; I&#8217;d be more than just a little upset. &nbsp;That alzheimers facility  that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I  quit it after just a few months!). &nbsp;They changed the residents every TWO  hours. &nbsp;It didn&#8217;t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap  in their pants&#8230;.if it wasn&#8217;t their time to be changed&#44; I saw more than  one caregiver who looked the other way. &nbsp;Pissed me off to think that  they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. &nbsp;I say &#8216;what  goes around&#44; comes around&#8217;&#8230;. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   Restraints being used when not needed?? &nbsp;They shouldn&#8217;t use them at all  without a doctors order. &nbsp;At least that&#8217;s a state LAW here in Oregon.  made&#8230;..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!!  I don&#8217;t want to upset you any more than you are already&#44; Rip&#8230;.but  sounds to me like it&#8217;s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that  place. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t ever judge a book by it&#8217;s cover&#8230;..but ya gotta keep in  mind that we&#8217;re not all bad eggs! &nbsp;Cameras in every room of facility  should be a law but it&#8217;s an expense that most facilities won&#8217;t deal with  unless something drastic happens. (We&#8217;ve finally got more security  cameras up in the place that I work&#8230;.NOT because of abuse or neglect  tho. &nbsp;Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the  elderly folks.) &nbsp;If I&#8217;m ever able to open the adult foster home that I  would LOVE to do&#44; I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate for a minute when it comes to  cameras in the place.  It&#8217;s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right  now. &nbsp;I would hate to be in your shoes&#44; lady. &nbsp;One of my residents is  finally moving into an adult foster home this week. &nbsp;Her family wanted  to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are  other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and  she&#8217;s still mentally &#8216;with it&#8217;. &nbsp;I know that if they put her into a NH&#44;  Take good care&#44; Ripley! &nbsp;Get the move over with&#8230;.then sit back for a  bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed&#8230;what good would  that do your Mom?  BIG hugs to both of ya!  Sally (hoping you&#8217;re not pissed off about this post)  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Cripes&#8230;.I got *the* call Wednesday that the NH I picked out for my Alzheimers mom has an  &gt; opening for her and were hot on the paperwork trail to get her in. &nbsp;Here comes the  &gt; rollercoaster of emotions&#8230;&#8230;excitement&#44; dread&#44; happy&#44; sad&#44; nervous at how she will  &gt; react&#8230;..gawd!  &gt; For those that don&#8217;t know me&#8230;.I&#8217;m the talented one who was caring for mom in her home and  &gt; stepped out the door one fine day&#8230;..and ended up in a wheelchair for over 6 months&#8230;  &gt; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &nbsp; OUCH!! &nbsp;Couldn&#8217;t care for mom like that so she entered an assisted living  &gt; facility&#8230;.which really doesn&#8217;t provide quite the care she needs in her condition.  &gt; It&#8217;s time&#8230;..I know that&#8230;.but&#8230;.she has gotten used to where she is&#8230;..a very big deal  &gt; for Alzheimers ppl. &nbsp;But the place she is in now has gone thru some changes I don&#8217;t  &gt; like&#8230;..new administrator&#8230;&#8230;some of the *good* ppl left. &nbsp;Last time I was there I had  &gt; realize how effing lucky they were I didn&#8217;t put a few on them!! &nbsp;I know she bruises easy&#8230;but  &gt; I didn&#8217;t like the location/looks of these&#8230;&#8230;and they had the unmitigated gall to give me a  &gt; hard time about the diapers I was getting for her!! &nbsp;My nostrils are still flaring!! &nbsp;They  &gt; want the kind that she couldn&#8217;t possibly pull down herself and &#8230;.oh I dunno&#8230;.go to the  &gt; bathroom on her own&#8230;&#8230;nooooo&#44; they want the ones that will *hold more*&#8230;..huh&#8230;&#8230;.I want  &gt; you effing ppl to change her dammit&#8230;.not let her walk around with a pants load  &gt; how she could see HER point&#8230;..I turned and said I would remember that&#8230;.when her time  &gt; came&#8230;&#8230;and if it&#8217;s sooooo effing OK&#8230;then why the hell doesn&#8217;t &nbsp;SHE just wear em all day  &gt; and let it rip!!!! &nbsp;Needless to say the ride home was quiet. &nbsp;Fuck em!! &nbsp;They think I&#8217;m nuts  &gt; for picking a NG that&#8217;s 40 miles away when there&#8217;s one right here! &nbsp;Oh yeah&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230;YOU CAN  &gt; GO THERE!! &nbsp; They have a nasty record of getting gigged on their inspections for things like  &gt; abuse&#44; neglect&#44; using restraints when not necessary&#44; meds foul-ups&#8230;&#8230;.and they get gigged  &gt; every single inspection&#8230;..why don&#8217;t they shut em down for that stuff!!! &nbsp; OK&#8230;..I&#8217;LL BE  &gt; SURE AND SEND YOU THERE ALL RIGHT!!!!!  &gt; sigh&#8230;..the new place&#8230;.the NH is beautiful&#8230;.clean&#44; purdy&#8230;.all the *inmates* appeared to  &gt; be well kept&#44; if you know what I mean&#44; and their inspections have been perfect!! &nbsp; Why can&#8217;t  &gt; Sally move here!! &nbsp;Hi Sally!! &nbsp;Love ya!&#8230;&#8230;But it&#8217;s the ppl working there that make or break  &gt; it&#8230;..the ones I met seemed like good ppl&#8230;..I want effing cameras in every room watching  &gt; every move the caregivers make!!! &nbsp;dammit!  &gt; And so&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s gonna be Monday or Tuesday or??? &nbsp;When we make the move&#8230;..I hope I don&#8217;t  &gt; show my ass too much right off. &nbsp;I wish I had a wee small plane or a helicopter so I could bip  &gt; over unexpected every other day and see mom. &nbsp;:-(  &gt; OK&#8230;.I&#8217;ll shut up now&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.I needed to get that out. &nbsp;I&#8217;m so uptight&#8230;.like a fly on  &gt; a turd!! &nbsp;I&#8217;ll go for a walk now&#8230;.heehee&#8230;.at least I CAN walk&#8230;not like I used to but  &gt; it&#8217;ll do!!!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Ripley / flaming in Hot Pink!!  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).  </p>
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<p>Hi BB&#8230;.. </p>
<p> &gt; Oh&#44; Ripley&#44; I am so happy/sad/relieved/worried for &nbsp;you! &nbsp;I can&#8217;t  &gt; imagine what you&#8217;ve been going through nor how it is for you now. &nbsp;I  &gt; only know that I am very close to my mom and I would want to take care  &gt; of her as long as necessary&#44; and then certainly would want the best care  &gt; for her when she was beyond my help. &nbsp;My grandmother is failing fast  &gt; now&#44; and we&#8217;re all grieving over how to handle that. </p>
<p> &gt; My thoughts and feelings are with you&#44; Ripley. &nbsp;Try to hang on and know  &gt; that you &nbsp;have people hundreds and even thousands of miles away that  &gt; care for you and are hoping/wishing you the best transition possible. </p>
<p>Thanks BB&#8230; &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;I&#8217;d like to get it over with&#8230;.but there&#8217;s been a holdup with the all  important paperwork&#8230;..not at my end.&lt;smirk&gt;&#8230;.I&#8217;ve done mine&#8230;.so far as they will let me.  One day at a time&#8230;&#8230;.well wishes coming back atcha with your gm.  Ripley / anxious&#8230;.but holdin  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; *Huge Hugs*  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;BinnieBee &#8211; &nbsp;A Proud Old Fogie!  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;%%  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(&#8212;-)  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( &gt;__&lt; )  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^ ~~ ^^  &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; ~f3as3~  &gt; Quit since 11/01/2001  &gt; http://binniebee.com  &gt; http://www.cyberdigs.com </p>
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<p>Thanks Dawn&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;m an only child&#8230;.so she&#8217;s stuck with me! &nbsp; I have my moments!  Ripley </p>
<p> &gt; Every old person should be lucky enough to have a child who cares. &nbsp;I hope  &gt; the move goes smoothly and your Mom settles in quickly.  &gt; Dawn  &gt; &#8212;  &gt; Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.  &gt; Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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<p>  &gt; I hope it all goes really well for your mom&#8230;and you <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Hey Maddie&#8230;&#8230;if it goes well for mom&#44; then I&#8217;m all set!!  Thanks&#8230;  Ripley  &gt; &#8212;&#8211;  &gt; Maddie&#44; 5 months </p>
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<p> &gt; &gt;roaring screaming assholes&#8230;&#8230;oops&#8230;&#8230;not done yet am I!!  &gt; Hey Ripley.  &gt; Just thinkin&#8217; o&#8217; ya <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &gt; steveb </p>
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<p>Hi Sally&#8230;.  &gt; ((((((((((((Ripley))))))))))))))) &nbsp;Gawd&#44; it sounds like you&#8217;re going  &gt; thru hell right now! &nbsp;I&#8217;m not going to stick up for the place she&#8217;s at  &gt; except to say that the bruises could be the result of a medicine she&#8217;s  &gt; taking (coumadin&#44; etc)&#8230;but I&#8217;d be totally pissed off if this were MY  &gt; mother&#44; too. &nbsp;I would be fuming and want a few answers myself. </p>
<p>Ya&#44; she is on a blood thinner&#8230;.could be that&#8230;..it&#8217;s a hard thing to see&#44; for sure.  &gt; As for &nbsp;the incontinence pads&#44; if you&#8217;re getting the generic brands&#44; they  &gt; usually are &#8216;crap&#8217; but the only way you can find out is to try different  &gt; kinds. &nbsp;Maybe the caregivers meant that it wasn&#8217;t the best choice is  &gt; all. (I hope Medicaid is covering the COST for you???) </p>
<p>No&#44; I pay for em&#8230;&#8230;I am always suspicious when they want the ones that will *hold  NH&#8230;.medicaid will pay for the diapers and her over the counter meds too!! &nbsp;:-)  &gt; I guess I&#8217;m &nbsp;trying to look at the positive side&#44; but like I said&#44; if this were MY  &gt; mother&#44; I&#8217;d be more than just a little upset. &nbsp;That alzheimers facility  &gt; that I worked for was very depressing for me (probably explains why I  &gt; quit it after just a few months!). &nbsp;They changed the residents every TWO  &gt; hours. &nbsp;It didn&#8217;t matter if they were soaked and/or had a load of crap  &gt; in their pants&#8230;.if it wasn&#8217;t their time to be changed&#44; I saw more than  &gt; one caregiver who looked the other way. &nbsp;Pissed me off to think that  &gt; they would probably do the same thing to their own parents. &nbsp;I say &#8216;what  &gt; goes around&#44; comes around&#8217;&#8230;. <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I try to look at the positive side too. &nbsp;Welp&#8230;.if it&#8217;s good for the goose&#8230;.it&#8217;s good for  the gander&#8230;..I think that anyone who can do that should be forced to sit in their own for an  hour or two or four!! &nbsp; Bastards!! &nbsp;oops&#8230;&#8230; &nbsp;:-(  &gt; Restraints being used when not needed?? &nbsp;They shouldn&#8217;t use them at all  &gt; without a doctors order. &nbsp;At least that&#8217;s a state LAW here in Oregon.  &gt; made&#8230;..one which came VERY close to killing the resident!! &nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to upset you any </p>
<p>more than you are already&#44; Rip&#8230;.but  &gt; sounds to me like it&#8217;s a good time to get your mom the hell out of that  &gt; place. </p>
<p>No&#44; no&#8230;.that is stuff going on in the NH that is right here in town. &nbsp;The one my aunts think  grrrrrr&#8230;.gggrrrrrrrrrrr &nbsp; somebody stop me!!   &nbsp;Don&#8217;t ever judge a book by it&#8217;s cover&#8230;..but ya gotta keep in  &gt; mind that we&#8217;re not all bad eggs! &nbsp;Cameras in every room of facility  &gt; should be a law but it&#8217;s an expense that most facilities won&#8217;t deal with  &gt; unless something drastic happens. (We&#8217;ve finally got more security  &gt; cameras up in the place that I work&#8230;.NOT because of abuse or neglect  &gt; tho. &nbsp;Someone from the outside has been coming in and stealing from the  &gt; elderly folks.) &nbsp;If I&#8217;m ever able to open the adult foster home that I  &gt; would LOVE to do&#44; I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate for a minute when it comes to  &gt; cameras in the place. </p>
<p>You know there&#8217;s a school that&#8217;s been closed here that would be perfect. &nbsp;They just decided to  build a new one&#8230;&#8230;sometimes&#44; when I ride by the buildings I picture a home like  &gt; It&#8217;s probably going to be hard for you to trust the caregivers right  &gt; now. &nbsp;I would hate to be in your shoes&#44; lady. &nbsp;One of my residents is  &gt; finally moving into an adult foster home this week. &nbsp;Her family wanted  &gt; to put her in to a nursing home but I convinced them that there are  &gt; other options since she is still able to do some things for herself and  &gt; she&#8217;s still mentally &#8216;with it&#8217;. &nbsp;I know that if they put her into a NH&#44; </p>
<p> living facilities are taking in those that really need NH care&#8230;&#8230;.and then it&#8217;s tough  noggies for the lo. &nbsp; money always talks.  &gt; Take good care&#44; Ripley! &nbsp;Get the move over with&#8230;.then sit back for a  &gt; bit and keep your eyes wide open. No smoking allowed&#8230;what good would  &gt; that do your Mom? </p>
<p>Thanks Sally&#8230;..no smoking&#8230;.lots of swearing and pacing and willing the phone to ring and  nervous eating and walks&#44; but no to smoking dammit!!  I finally got sick of waiting today and called&#8230;.there is a paperwork holdup&#8230;..someone  didn&#8217;t do the evaluation or didn&#8217;t put the paper thru&#8230;&#8230;they can&#8217;t seem to figger out  which! &nbsp;OK&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;ll just wait&#8230;..everything else is done&#8230;&#8230;they just read the PPD &nbsp;test  Friday&#8230;negative&#8230;&#8230;.so once they pull their fingers out of their butts it&#8217;ll be a  go&#8230;..till then I will eat evrything that can&#8217;t run away. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp; just call me fatlizzy&#8230;..  burp&#8230;..pfffttt  &gt; BIG hugs to both of ya!  &gt; Sally (hoping you&#8217;re not pissed off about this post) </p>
<p>Hell no!! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;don&#8217;t want to try and piss in the pot blindfolded!! &nbsp; I&#8217;ve got a bid on a  Halloween costume&#8230;..  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&#038;item=2953053468&#038;categor&#8230;  mom is &nbsp;and fool with all the old folks &nbsp;and try to bite their necks!! &nbsp; What ever happened to  the transylvania twist!!!!! &nbsp; &nbsp;LOL  Ripley / off to sharpen fangs&#8230;.   &#8212;  Spanking clean &nbsp; <img src='http://weddingrings.weddingcakesfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). </p>
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Wear it&#44; if that&#8217;s what you normally do. &#160;And please refrain from the  all to common practice on ships of wearing all your jewelry all the time.  Any of you ever noticed that some gals are apparently afraid to leave  anything worth more than $20 in their stateroom safe? &#160;They come to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Wear it&#44; if that&#8217;s what you normally do. &nbsp;And please refrain from the  all to common practice on ships of wearing all your jewelry all the time.  Any of you ever noticed that some gals are apparently afraid to leave  anything worth more than $20 in their stateroom safe? &nbsp;They come to the  pool looking like an overdecorated Christmas tree&#44; with rings on every  finger&#44; and dozens of chains wrapped around each wrist and their neck.  Howard  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>Or&#44; wear it&#44; but turn it around so diamond is inside your hand. I&#8217;ve  never  worried too much in ports&#44; but some are safer than others. I&#8217;ve always  felt fairly safe on Mexican Riviera&#8230;have done that one 8 or 9 times.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Wear it&#44; if that&#8217;s what you normally do. &nbsp;And please refrain from the  &gt; all to common practice on ships of wearing all your jewelry all the time.  &gt; Any of you ever noticed that some gals are apparently afraid to leave  &gt; anything worth more than $20 in their stateroom safe? &nbsp;They come to the  &gt; pool looking like an overdecorated Christmas tree&#44; with rings on every  &gt; finger&#44; and dozens of chains wrapped around each wrist and their neck.  &gt; Howard > I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to > wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being > paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else > basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be > appreciated.  </p>
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<p>I do not have a lot of expensive rings&#44; etc&#44; but I would leave them at home&#44;  and wear the 5 and dime stuff&#44; ON ANY TRIP </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>MY wife NEVER brings an of her good jewelry on a trip. &nbsp;She has a vast  assortment of junk jewelry she&#8217;s bought just for cruising purposes. &nbsp;Why  temp someone especially when there&#8217;s no reason to. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>AJ &#8211;  To be on the safe side&#44; I&#8217;d leave the ring in your safe on the ship. &nbsp;It&#8217;s  not a good idea to flash something like that around. &nbsp;I NEVER wear my good  jewelry when I go on a shore tour. &nbsp;I wear my late dad&#8217;s wedding ring on  my right hand and even that gets put in the safe when we go ashore. &nbsp;I&#8217;m  not taking any chances! &nbsp;Another good idea &#8211; don&#8217;t wear any gold  necklaces on shore. &nbsp;They can be snatched off in a second. &nbsp;Better safe  than sorry!  Gayle  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p> &gt; People will horde you &#44; but they will not be cutting off your finger to get  &gt; the ring (assuming you are in populated areas&#44; not yelling &quot;Stay away from  &gt; my very expensive ring&quot; or anything else like that). &nbsp;If you are worried  &gt; about it though&#44; I would leave it in the safe. Better that then ruin your  &gt; trip. > I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  &gt; to > wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being > paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else > basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be > appreciated. </p>
<p>We NEVER take expensive jewelry on vacation! Find a nice-looking (but  expendable) set of rings that can act as standins for your &quot;real&quot; stuff. </p>
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<p>I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  appreciated. </p>
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<p> &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated. </p>
<p>If you are going to worry about it&#44; leave it in the safe in your cabin.  sue </p>
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<p>People will horde you &#44; but they will not be cutting off your finger to get  the ring (assuming you are in populated areas&#44; not yelling &quot;Stay away from  my very expensive ring&quot; or anything else like that). &nbsp;If you are worried  about it though&#44; I would leave it in the safe. Better that then ruin your  trip. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  appreciated. </p>
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<p> &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated. </p>
<p>If you are going to worry about it&#44; leave it in the safe in your cabin.  sue </p>
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<p>People will horde you &#44; but they will not be cutting off your finger to get  the ring (assuming you are in populated areas&#44; not yelling &quot;Stay away from  my very expensive ring&quot; or anything else like that). &nbsp;If you are worried  about it though&#44; I would leave it in the safe. Better that then ruin your  trip. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p> &gt; People will horde you &#44; but they will not be cutting off your finger to get  &gt; the ring (assuming you are in populated areas&#44; not yelling &quot;Stay away from  &gt; my very expensive ring&quot; or anything else like that). &nbsp;If you are worried  &gt; about it though&#44; I would leave it in the safe. Better that then ruin your  &gt; trip. > I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  &gt; to > wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being > paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else > basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be > appreciated. </p>
<p>We NEVER take expensive jewelry on vacation! Find a nice-looking (but  expendable) set of rings that can act as standins for your &quot;real&quot; stuff. </p>
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<p>I do not have a lot of expensive rings&#44; etc&#44; but I would leave them at home&#44;  and wear the 5 and dime stuff&#44; ON ANY TRIP </p>
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<p>MY wife NEVER brings an of her good jewelry on a trip. &nbsp;She has a vast  assortment of junk jewelry she&#8217;s bought just for cruising purposes. &nbsp;Why  temp someone especially when there&#8217;s no reason to. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -&gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot;  to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>AJ &#8211;  To be on the safe side&#44; I&#8217;d leave the ring in your safe on the ship. &nbsp;It&#8217;s  not a good idea to flash something like that around. &nbsp;I NEVER wear my good  jewelry when I go on a shore tour. &nbsp;I wear my late dad&#8217;s wedding ring on  my right hand and even that gets put in the safe when we go ashore. &nbsp;I&#8217;m  not taking any chances! &nbsp;Another good idea &#8211; don&#8217;t wear any gold  necklaces on shore. &nbsp;They can be snatched off in a second. &nbsp;Better safe  than sorry!  Gayle  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>Wear it&#44; if that&#8217;s what you normally do. &nbsp;And please refrain from the  all to common practice on ships of wearing all your jewelry all the time.  Any of you ever noticed that some gals are apparently afraid to leave  anything worth more than $20 in their stateroom safe? &nbsp;They come to the  pool looking like an overdecorated Christmas tree&#44; with rings on every  finger&#44; and dozens of chains wrapped around each wrist and their neck.  Howard  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to  &gt; wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being  &gt; paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else  &gt; basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be  &gt; appreciated.  </p>
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<p>Or&#44; wear it&#44; but turn it around so diamond is inside your hand. I&#8217;ve  never  worried too much in ports&#44; but some are safer than others. I&#8217;ve always  felt fairly safe on Mexican Riviera&#8230;have done that one 8 or 9 times.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; &gt; Wear it&#44; if that&#8217;s what you normally do. &nbsp;And please refrain from the  &gt; all to common practice on ships of wearing all your jewelry all the time.  &gt; Any of you ever noticed that some gals are apparently afraid to leave  &gt; anything worth more than $20 in their stateroom safe? &nbsp;They come to the  &gt; pool looking like an overdecorated Christmas tree&#44; with rings on every  &gt; finger&#44; and dozens of chains wrapped around each wrist and their neck.  &gt; Howard > I have a large diamond wedding ring and I was wondering if it was &quot;safe&quot; to > wear in port or should I leave it on the ship? &nbsp;Maybe I am just being > paranoid but I keep hearing stories of vendors and who knows who else > basically hording you when you get off the ship&#8230; &nbsp;Any info would be > appreciated.  </p>
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